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Re: Text-based Captchas

From: David Poehlman <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 07:09:48 -0400
Message-Id: <64F6BE8E-4ED5-49B0-9D61-22F44151B185@handsontechnologeyes.com>
Cc: "'WAI Interest Group'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
To: "Mark | Carbon Chip" <mark@carbonchip.com>


This leaves out huge swaths of possible site users who either do not  
have sound cards or who cannot hear or hear well.  Good idea though,  
it would not require someone who would beneffit from the audio to do  
extra work or to be ghettoed.

On May 3, 2006, at 6:56 AM, Mark | Carbon Chip wrote:

Has anyone done anything with Flash in conjunction with images? I  
some work on a Flash system which automatically played a Captcha  
audio file
that correlated with the Captcha image.

I mention Flash, not wishing to incur any wrath :), but just as an
augmentation to image based Captchas. Obviously user control isn't  
and to hear the audio again, the user would have to refresh the page,  
invariably have a different character sequence read to them, but  
advantages are:

1. Augmentation only, would add to image Captcha method.
2. Lack of Flash player should not impair the procedure.
3. Flash may have a benefit over serving up audio files, in that another
application would not need to be opened (eg if .MP3 served instead).
4. Very customisable - would not need to run a server side script to  
and stitch audio files together - Flash could handle this, and different
voice libraries (of higher/lower quality) could easily be added as  


1. Surprise to user - no control, unless directed to a separate page and
informed of what is going to happen.
2. Plug-in dependent.

I hadn't seen any type of open source server-side audio manipulation  
and guessed that it would be quite server intensive and require  
that many site owners would not have, hence Flash.


-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On  
Of David Poehlman
Sent: 03 May 2006 11:30
To: Patrick Lauke
Cc: WAI Interest Group
Subject: Re: Text-based Captchas

I found a really interesting one at:
where you change your mailing adddress.  If you go to change address,  
have a link that will provide you with the string in the clear.

On May 3, 2006, at 4:39 AM, Patrick Lauke wrote:

> Matthew Smith

> Appropriate links are here:
> <http://www.smiffysplace.com/blog/archives/169-php-text-captcha>

Although the question are fairly simple, entailing nothing more than  
knowledge", it's still possible that some geniune user may not know the
answer to them.

More generally, users may actually be confused by finding any sort of
question not related to the task they're trying to achieve (I want to  
book a
flight, why is it asking me who the President of the US is?), so this  
require a careful bit of preamble/legend, perhaps.

But regardless, nice one.

Patrick H. Lauke
Web Editor / University of Salford
Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force
http://webstandards.org/ ________________________________
Received on Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:09:57 UTC

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