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Re: Site Maps and nested navigation

From: Anthony Ettinger <aettinger@sdsualumni.org>
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:50:02 -0800
Message-ID: <3fc6b2fb0512111550j18eb4e24s6a92e97ecb3db448@mail.gmail.com>
To: Terrence Wood <tdw@funkive.com>
Cc: WAI-IG <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
would access keys work here?

On 12/11/05, Terrence Wood <tdw@funkive.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 12 Dec 2005, at 12:35 AM, Anthony Ettinger wrote:
> > you can include the much utilized "Skip to content" link at the top of
> > the page.
>
> This *still* doesn't solve the problem of how to move up and down the
> first level menu items. The standard keys (tab, for most of us) go
> through the entire menu, one must use the arrow keys to skip the
> submenus, and that is not obvious for users. In Opera the submenus do
> not appear when focussed - i.e. there is no visual feedback that you
> are on a submenu.
>
> If one collects the link list (usual practice for screen reader and
> lynx users) every link on the page is returned - that's the site map
> disguised as a menu - and that is just not helpful for finding your way
> around. To illustrate: the udm4 homepage has 128 links, the download
> link is number 113. If I want to read the section on expanding menus,
> the worst case is I have to press tab round 270 times, or guess how
> many times I need to press 'page down' to reduce my tabbing.
>
> kind regards
> Terrence Wood.
>
> >
> > On 12/10/05, Terrence Wood <tdw@funkive.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 8 Dec 2005, at 11:20 AM, Rebecca Cox wrote:
> > > I agree - vast lists not a good thing. However, if you have to use
> > > them, and also have to present them as dropdown menus, have you
> > looked
> > > at UDM?
> > >
> > > See http://www.udm4.com/
> >
> > UDM is the nicest js menu around.... biggest problem is, apart from not
> > working in Opera (the onfocus doesn't fire), how do you let users know
> > how to use it (using arrow keys is not obvious)?
> >
> > And it still doesn't solve the issue of page weight due to having the
> > site map load with every page.
> >
> > Drop down menu's - just avoid them.
>
>
>


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