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RE: Serving XHTML as XML

From: Lloyd Rasmussen <lras@loc.gov>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:48:46 -0500
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Try your HTML using the Duxbury NISO//DAISY importer rather than the 
SGML/ICADD (HTML) importer.  There are more than 120 styles, corresponding 
to the elements of the DTBook file format.  These styles still need to be 
used by more people and systematized, but you start from a richer set of 
styles and are closer to conformance with braille conventions and 
readability.  In particular, table and list elements are supported.

I don't have a working DBTW in front of me; you might need to create a NISO 
template first.

At 09:06 AM 2/25/2005, you wrote:

> > I believe Duxbury are working towards Unicode support,
>This may  help with embossing none-western languages, and I believe there 
>is a Unicode page set for Braille, but I don't see how Unicode helps DBT 
>overcome its current weakness with translating HTML.
> > This need not be a huge problem; if we have a true (well-formed) XHTML
> > document, we can always feed it through an XSLT translation to convert
> > it into something that Duxbury can handle.  If Duxbury has limitations,
> > these could also be catered for.
>If an end user has the ability to code XSLT translation to cater to DBT 
>limitations, they are probably perfectly capable of implementing Braille 
>translation rules on the source document!  Duxbury is actually fairly 
>extensible, I just don't think writing translation tables should be 
>expected of the average customer for something as mainstream as HTML!
> > and as you say, XSLT will take any XML through to Duxbury styles,
> > using the SGML import feature,
> > so XML is probably less of a problem than weak html.
>Have either of you tried feeding Duxbury non-trivial but well formed HTML 
>(or XHTML)?  Data tables cells are all run together.  Ordered lists get a 
>similar treatment (but UL is processed correctly).  Strong and EM are 
>ignored while B is handled.  I don't have a comprehensive list because it 
>makes me irrational.  The recommend work-around is to open the HTML 
>document in Word, save as a .doc file, and import that into 
>DBT.  Frightenly enough, this works reasonably well!  How do the open 
>standards advocates feel about that?

... Creating implements of mass instruction.
Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Staff Engineer
National Library Service f/t Blind and Physically Handicapped
Library of Congress    (202) 707-0535   <http://www.loc.gov/nls/z3986>
HOME:  <http://lras.home.sprynet.com>
The opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent 
those of NLS.
Received on Friday, 25 February 2005 14:49:20 UTC

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