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Re: accessible banking:

From: Kelly Pierce <kpierce2000@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:23:01 -0600
Message-ID: <001501c50997$4950f040$0b0110ac@Kelly>
To: "Access Systems" <accessys@smart.net>
Cc: <Kurt_Mattes@bankone.com>, <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>, <John.Carpenter@pdms.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>

The MARTA decision which can be viewed at:

http://www.transitweb.its.dot.gov/documents/marta.htm

doesn't say anything about proprietary operating systems or website owners 
buying screen readers for these proprietary systems.  the decision did find 
a website inaccessible and order opposing parties to work together to 
fashion a solution.  it did not mandate a particular solution though.

Kelly

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Access Systems" <accessys@smart.net>
To: "Kelly Pierce" <kpierce2000@earthlink.net>
Cc: <Kurt_Mattes@bankone.com>; <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>; 
<John.Carpenter@pdms.com>; <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: accessible banking:


> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Kelly Pierce wrote:
>
>> oh I see.  Anything that isn't running a free Linux distro is now 
>> supposedly
>> inaccessible.  I understand and appreciate your open source politics but 
>> I
>
> YOU ARE TOTALLY MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT I AM SAYING (do you work for this
> band)
>
>> think the notion of accessibility is being used to advance the open 
>> source
>
> open source advances on it's own, doesn't need my help
>
>> ideology.  We have already discussed WCAG and ADA compliance and neither 
>> of
>> them apply here.
>
> BUT! and this is important, REQUIRING a single "proprietary" solution that
> is not provided is indeed illegal. and the courts have ruled as such,
>
> it appears the only thing that will convince you is losing a lawsuit.
>
> SEE BELOW AND READ WHAT I ACTUALLY SAID  NOT HOW YOU WANT TO INTERPERT IT
>
>> > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Kelly Pierce wrote:
>> >
>> >> yes, the court ordered the transit system to design an accessible
>> >> website.
>> >> it didn't order the transit system to give away free screen readers, 
>> >> as
>> >> you
>> >> suggested.
>> >
>> > no I never suggested they give away free screen readers, what I said 
>> > was
>> > if they require a specific screen reader or software they have to 
>> > provide
>> > it free.  and accessible website would allow accessible systems to use 
>> > it.
>> >
>> > IE cannot not be considered ADA compliant.  they require the purchase 
>> > of
>> > specific software.  proprietary software.  not permitted unless they 
>> > give
>> > you the software.  what is the problem with the W3C/WAI standards. 
>> > there
>> > needs to be a way to use the system with a text based screen reader.
>
> I'll say it again
>
> THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY TO USE THE SYSTEM WITH A TEXT BASED SCREEN READER
>
> I don't know what is so hard about that, and contrary to your apparent
> belief LYNX is not open source and is (if I am not mistaken) owned and
> maintained by the Univ of Kansas. it is however free and works on WINDOWS
> as well as other operating systems.
>
> TEXT IS NOT LIMITED TO LINUX, many windows users and mac users also use
> text based screen readers.
>
> Bob
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