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RE: Strikethrough elements and JAWS

From: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:37:13 -0600
Message-ID: <6EED8F7006A883459D4818686BCE3B3B751CF8@MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu>
To: "John Colby" <John.Colby@uce.ac.uk>, "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>, "wai-ig list" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
John Colby wrote:
[jms] <blockquote> But I guess that we really need a technique where we
don;t have to fiddle with the defaults of JAWS - ad that seems like a
job for the manufacturer to parse stuff sensibly from square 1.


Actually, I think developers should follow the specification and use
<del> and <ins>, etc., as they're meant to be used. It would be nice if
screen readers, including but not limited to JAWS, could automatically
switch into "proofreading" mode when they encounter those elements,
independently of the settings for font and text attributes. But you
don't need to devise elaborate hacks to fix what should be handled by
the user agent.



-----Original Message----- 
From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org on behalf of david poehlman 
Sent: Sat 22/01/2005 14:56 
To: John M Slatin; wai-ig list 
Subject: Re: Strikethrough elements and JAWS

you can actually change the voice behavior under speech and sounds
too.  select modify scheme and there are three tabs that allow you to
hav a
tone played or a different voice etc for things like html attribs,
names and states.

Johnnie Apple Seed

----- Original Message -----
From: "John M Slatin" <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
To: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>; "wai-ig
list" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: Strikethrough elements and JAWS

David Pullman wrote:

Versions of jaws beginning with 5.0 I believe and up through 6.0 will
announce these attributes if you set the voice to either proof reading
classic with attributes.  This is done in speech and sounds manager
the configuration manager.

That's correct. Be aware, though, that JAWS apparently doesn't change
voices when it's reading in "say-all" mode (i.e., when you just turn it
loose and tell it to read). Or rather, it will pick up some things and
not others.  But when you go line by line the voice indicates deletions
with a very high-pitched voice and insertions with a lower, sort of
husky voice.  Unchanged text is read in the default voice.

From: "James Nurthen" <

To: <

Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 9:06 PM
Subject: Strikethrough elements and JAWS

I need to create a review page for an application which shows text which
has changed (preferably as a strikethough) and its replacement. It would
seem that the natural elements for this would be <DEL> and <INS>,
however JAWS does not seem to recognise these elements. In fact it reads
the example from the WCAG 2.0 draft techniques document, "<P>A Sheriff
can employ <del>3</del><INS>5</INS> deputies. </P>" as "A Sheriff can
employ thirty-five deputies."

Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to accomplish this requirement.


Johnnie Apple Seed
Received on Saturday, 22 January 2005 17:37:32 UTC

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