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Re: Who makes law Re: UK Businesses Reject Accessible Web Sites

From: Access Systems <accessys@smart.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 15:45:33 -0500 (EST)
To: david poehlman <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
cc: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0412281544370.16489@smart.net>

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, david poehlman wrote:

> bob, I have not found them in the regs.

I believe they are in the appendix, can't for the life of me find it at
the moment and my crossreference is in my office and I'm off til the 3rd.

Bob

>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Access Systems" <accessys@smart.net>
> To: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
> Cc: "David Woolley" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>; <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
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> Subject: Re: Who makes law Re: UK Businesses Reject Accessible Web Sites
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>
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, david poehlman wrote:
>
> > On the discussions of the 508 standards on the 508 list, we are told that
> > lynx and pine are not a good test of the standards.
>
> and I know that they are not the greatest test, but they are mentioned in
> the regs,  I usually test a lot of other ways too but usually the first
> pass is via LYNX   I figure if it doesn't pass that it doesn't have a
> chance.
>
> Bob
>
> >
> >
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Access Systems" <accessys@smart.net>
> > To: "David Woolley" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
> > Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: Who makes law Re: UK Businesses Reject Accessible Web Sites
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, David Woolley wrote:
> >
> > > > I think one of the points of the article was that some businesses
> > > > don't
> > > > consider the existing laws appropriate - neither for business, nor for
> > > > people with disabilities. Of course, that's effectively a local
> > > > biritsh
> > >
> > > The way I read it was that they don't think they are appropriate because
> > > there is a reasonableness test.  Generally businesses don't mind
> > > complying
> > > with accessibility legislation as long as:
> > >
> > > - all their competitors incur the same compliance cost;
> > > - it is easy to work out exactly what to do to comply at the absolute
> > >   minimum cost.
> > >
> > > Having UK law reference WCAG would go part way there, but you still have
> > > the Bobby problem.   The businesses almost certainly want mechanically
> > > verifiable rules, with no judgement calls.
> >
> > all people want to "know" when they are in the clear, put up a sign on a
> > road that the speed limit is "reasonable" you understand the confusion.
> >
> > I'm not sure how to solve this as it is a moving target. buried somewhere
> > in the US regulations, (and I can't find it at the moment) it says that if
> > a site is able to present all information in a format that can be read by
> > LYNX or PINE it is substantially compliant.  now what does that "Really"
> > mean but at least it is a start.
> >
> > wish I had a simple answer, I test stuff in LYNX using a linux operating
> > system, I figure if it works there it will work just about anywhere, but
> > I've been nailed by a few sites that work fine that way and won't work in
> > something else...
> >
> > Bob
> >
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