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Re: Who makes law Re: UK Businesses Reject Accessible Web Sites

From: Access Systems <accessys@smart.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 15:40:01 -0500 (EST)
To: david poehlman <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
cc: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0412281538360.16489@smart.net>

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, david poehlman wrote:

> On the discussions of the 508 standards on the 508 list, we are told that
> lynx and pine are not a good test of the standards.

and I know that they are not the greatest test, but they are mentioned in
the regs,  I usually test a lot of other ways too but usually the first
pass is via LYNX   I figure if it doesn't pass that it doesn't have a
chance.

Bob

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> Johnnie Apple Seed
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> From: "Access Systems" <accessys@smart.net>
> To: "David Woolley" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
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> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Who makes law Re: UK Businesses Reject Accessible Web Sites
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> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, David Woolley wrote:
>
> > > I think one of the points of the article was that some businesses don't
> > > consider the existing laws appropriate - neither for business, nor for
> > > people with disabilities. Of course, that's effectively a local biritsh
> >
> > The way I read it was that they don't think they are appropriate because
> > there is a reasonableness test.  Generally businesses don't mind complying
> > with accessibility legislation as long as:
> >
> > - all their competitors incur the same compliance cost;
> > - it is easy to work out exactly what to do to comply at the absolute
> >   minimum cost.
> >
> > Having UK law reference WCAG would go part way there, but you still have
> > the Bobby problem.   The businesses almost certainly want mechanically
> > verifiable rules, with no judgement calls.
>
> all people want to "know" when they are in the clear, put up a sign on a
> road that the speed limit is "reasonable" you understand the confusion.
>
> I'm not sure how to solve this as it is a moving target. buried somewhere
> in the US regulations, (and I can't find it at the moment) it says that if
> a site is able to present all information in a format that can be read by
> LYNX or PINE it is substantially compliant.  now what does that "Really"
> mean but at least it is a start.
>
> wish I had a simple answer, I test stuff in LYNX using a linux operating
> system, I figure if it works there it will work just about anywhere, but
> I've been nailed by a few sites that work fine that way and won't work in
> something else...
>
> Bob
>
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