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RE: Title attribute for form label

From: Jim Thatcher <jim@jimthatcher.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:20:00 -0500
To: "'Sailesh Panchang'" <sailesh.panchang@deque.com>, "'James Craig'" <wai-ig@cookiecrook.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Cc: "'Joe Clark'" <joeclark@joeclark.org>, "'Jesper Tverskov'" <jesper.tverskov@mail.tele.dk>
Message-ID: <000501c49f57$99e96f00$6801a8c0@jtcom2400>
Hi Sailesh and James,


Actually the basic AIR training has four slides on forms and one of them
(http://www.jimthatcher.com/knowbility/33t.htm) is about the title element -
an application which I think is essential.




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-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of Sailesh Panchang
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 2:33 PM
To: James Craig; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Cc: Joe Clark; Jesper Tverskov
Subject: Re: Title attribute for form label



Here is one example. Actually I was not sure if you would mind if I had sent
the first message to the WAI-IG list, so I sent it to you.

Note that this example also sets a title on the form element. WinEyes can be
made to announce the title and this is helpful when there are multiple forms
on a page. Perhaps you might like to suggest this as well in your




----- Original Message ----- 

From: James Craig <mailto:wai-ig@cookiecrook.com>  

To: Sailesh <mailto:sailesh.panchang@deque.com>  Panchang 

Cc: Joe Clark <mailto:joeclark@joeclark.org>  ; Jesper Tverskov

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 2:41 PM

Subject: Re: Title attribute for form label


Sailesh Panchang wrote:

> I chanced to review the AIR tutorial on forms and I notice that you
> have barely mentioned the title attribute's relevance. Is it not
> especially useful for a form embedded in a data table such that the
> row heading and column heading (labels) apply to all form controls in
> the row or column respectively? There are survey forms for instance
>  that need to use this technique where the user's responses are column
> heading and the questions are row headings.

Good point. I'll add that to the material. Do you have a good sample 
form that uses that method? If so, I'll add a link to it from the material.

The instances I was thinking of were more graphically oriented. 
Something that, as a designer, I could not achieve with a visible label. 
An example might be several radio buttons in a row that represent 
satisfaction level from 1 through 5. 1 being lowest, and 5 being very 

Partial-ASCII representation:

Very unsatisfied  [ O  O  O  *  O ]  Very satisfied

End ASCII representation.

This is something I've mentioned in a live training session before, but 
haven't gotten around to placing in the material. Due to your suggestion 
though, I'd like to get both examples in. If you have one, or both, 
ready in some simple HTML forms, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll 
write it myself when I get the time.

Thanks Sailesh,

Received on Monday, 20 September 2004 21:20:15 UTC

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