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RE: Skip navigation in WCAG-2

From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:17:21 -0500
To: Jamal Mazrui <Jamal.Mazrui@fcc.gov>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-Id: <927f650c.7d539f51.823a000@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu>

I like it but I am not sure how to make using MAP a
recommended practice.  I do not know a process in the W3C do
do that, other than getting people to do it.


---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:16:38 -0400
>From: "Jamal Mazrui" <Jamal.Mazrui@fcc.gov>  
>Subject: RE: Skip navigation in WCAG-2  
>To: "Jon Gunderson" <jongund@uiuc.edu>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>Hi John,
>The map element approach sounds like a good candidate for skip
>navigation markup.  Are you proposing it as the approach to
>on as an accessibility guideline?  This may go without
saying, but a
>reliable solution, in my opinion, will be, not just one of
>approaches,  but the one agreed to as a W3C recommended
practice above
>P.S.  Evidently, I need to solve a problem with my list
>whereby my messages are reaching the individual receiver but
not the
>list.  In the meantime, please include the list in your
response (if you
>choose to respond), so that others may also read my input on
this topic.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org
[mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On
>Behalf Of Jon Gunderson
>Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 3:56 PM
>To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
>Subject: Re: Skip navigation in WCAG-2
>There was discussion of this a month or so ago.  
>Here is one way to use markup to indicate collections of links.
>Use the MAP element as a container for a set of links.  MAP
is usually
>assocaited with image maps, but can contain text links.  
><map name="navbar" title="Main Main">
><li><a href="index.php">Events</a></li>
><li><a href="calendar/index.php">Calendar</a></li>
><li><a href="camping.php">Camping</a></li>
>The MAP element indicates a navigation bar and the title
provide a
>description of the links.  Other groups of links would have a
>There is a beta tool for Mozilla that looks for these MAP
elements and
>list for the user to select.
>---- Original message ----
>>Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 13:28:15 -0400
>>From: "david poehlman"
>>Subject: Re: Skip navigation in WCAG-2
>>To: <tina@greytower.net>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>>Lists of links are lists of links.  If all you have are lists
>of links, I
>>guess you have no main content, but seriosly, if you have a
>heading that
>>breaks the page into two areas, I can easily jump between
>them without
>>having to go through all the links associated with each.
>>Johnnie Apple Seed
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Tina Holmboe" <tina@greytower.net>
>>To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 1:22 PM
>>Subject: Re: Skip navigation in WCAG-2
>>On  9 Sep, david poehlman wrote:
>>> actually, assistive technologies can obtain info from
>markup and if
>>> judicious use of headings and other mark up is used, this
>becomes trivial.
>>  It does ?
>>  Exactly how would you suggest that, programmatically, an
>UA-AT should
>>  differ between a list of links (happens to be a menu) and a
>list of
>>  links (these are my best friend's pages actually) ?
>> -    Tina Holmboe                    Greytower Technologies
>>   tina@greytower.net                http://www.greytower.net/
>>   [+46] 0708 557 905
>Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
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>Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
>College of Applied Life Studies
>University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
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Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
College of Applied Life Studies
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL  61820

Voice: (217) 244-5870
Fax: (217) 333-0248

E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu

WWW: http://cita.rehab.uiuc.edu/
WWW: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
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