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Re: Does 5.1 absolutely require TH?

From: Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 15:37:22 -0400
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> The table is definitely a data-table with contents of a cells being related to cell contents in adjacent cells.

Sailesh, where are you taking this definition from?  I think I like it.
Sailesh: I have always maintained this and had proposed to WCAG-WG in one of my  posts. And just a few weeks ago I read an extension to that to define a layout table- if a cell can be moved around such that it does not affect the  comprehension of the table, then it is a layout table.

But the discussion of determination of data table versus layout table is off-topic.
-- Either that, or said determination IS the answer to my question.  I am not sure!
Sailesh: The checkpoint reads: 5.1 For data tables, identify row and column headers. So till you determine whether your table is a dt or an lt , you can go no further!

I will also remind the group that there is strong traditional that Single-A conformance need not change the default presentation of the page (ALT text and the like being largely invisible).
Sailesh: Where did you  read this   _need not change the default presentation _ stuff in WCAG 1 and related docs? WCAG 2 is moving that way. But definition of Priority   levels in WCAG 1 do not suggest that.

For the purposes of this discussion, let's assume I am only interested in what I must do, the minimal.  But that I am committed to Single-A conformance.
So, does 5.1 absolutely require TH?
Sailesh: Absolutely.  A data table greater than 2 by 2  needs th if the author intends the user to interpret and read the table as a data table.

We all agree that headers would be nice.  But are they required?  John says no (reluctantly).  Can anyone provide me some evidence to the contrary?
Sailesh: I gave you an example  of an accessibility problem in my first mail on the subject and was seconded by Jennifer. 
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