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Re: PDF in WCAG 2

From: david poehlman <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 08:39:02 -0400
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To: "Harry Loots" <harry.loots@ieee.org>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>

boy, I'd have to have all those skip links interrupting my flow.

Johnnie Apple Seed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harry Loots" <harry.loots@ieee.org>
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 5:54 AM
Subject: Re: PDF in WCAG 2

> of course, we could just provide a link to it where it appears and a
> link to jump back there from it.
> Johnnie Apple Seed

or we could use a simple snippet of code to show/hide the
'footnote/endnote' -
and let's immediately decide to call it an "explanote" (from 'explanatory
note'), before the semantic police jump on us (mmmm... have we just coined a
new phrase for the Oxford Dictionary?)

advantage is that this information would be hidden (in CSS aware browsers),
until the user wishes to read the note; while the user of assistive
technology, does not have to go jump backwards/forwards in the page. I would
also provide a <skip> link so that users of assistive technology can skip
explanation and get to the next logical paragraph.

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---------- Original Message -----------
From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@handsontechnologeyes.com>
To: "Kassia Krozser" <ktwice@pandemic.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:24:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: PDF in WCAG 2

> of course, we could just provide a link to it where it appears and a
> link to jump back there from it.
> Johnnie Apple Seed
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kassia Krozser" <ktwice@pandemic.com>
> To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> Cc: "WAI-IG" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: PDF in WCAG 2
> Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
> >
> >> oh no, i don't think i can hack them. what i'm more concerned about is:
> >> does a footnote that, is changed to an endnote change in content and
> >> meaning?
> > Still no answer on this then? Shame, it does pique my interest...
> Setting aside the fact that many readers find endnotes irritating
> because they require constant back and forth (or, if one is reading
> online, scrolling up and down or switching between screens),
> resulting in the loss of flow when reading, footnotes are generally
> short and concise, in keeping with their position on a page. They
> are best used for citing sources and short commentary necessary to
> strengthen an argument being made in the text. Footnotes that take
> up considerable page space are considered bad form.
> Endnotes have the advantage of including more detailed information such
> as tables, graphs, and lengthy quotations. They also have a disadvantage
> in that readers require sufficient context in the note to understand
> what the reference means, so they may require attention when
> written. If a writer uses endnotes instead of footnotes, he or she
> should be aware that many people don't do the necessary back and
> forth while reading, so the text also needs to be written so that
> the argument is clearly understood without benefit of the note.
> The choice of using endnotes versus footnotes is largely a matter of
> style, and certain disciplines seem to prefer one style over another.
> Some works include both, leveraging the strengths of each type of note.
> However, when making a choice, it's important to keep the reader in mind
> -- if a work consists largely of references that point reader back to
> source material without further detail, endnotes don't make sense. If
> the references contain detailed information or further elucidation, then
> footnotes don't make sense.
> k2
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