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Re: Skip Navigation was RE: Access key questions

From: Steven Dale <sdale@stevendale.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 13:42:48 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <3119.68.232.129.117.1080499368.squirrel@www.stevendale.com>
To: <poehlman1@comcast.net>
Cc: <jim@jimthatcher.com>, <sdale@stevendale.com>, <SLovejoy@csu.org>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>

David Poehlman said:
> There is no more rong with this than there is putting all the nav links
> so  that the fall at the top of a screen rendered view thus forcing
> screen  reader users to have to click a skip link or wade through them.
> In fact, it  is more usefull as it makes it easier to get to pieces of
> long pages or go  directly to a part of a site that you want to go to.
Yes! And not just for screen reader users, but anyone without the use of a
mouse.

> The headings idea is a  good one but headings do not have a tab index.
Headings could be wrapped inside an anchor tag <a>.

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Thatcher" <jim@jimthatcher.com>
> To: <sdale@stevendale.com>
> Cc: <SLovejoy@csu.org>; <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 11:09 AM
> Subject: RE: Skip Navigation was RE: Access key questions
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> The solution for what Steve suggests should be "headings" markup and
> thus headings navigation. It is a solution for screen reader users
> today, but as far as I know there is no keyboard value for headings yet.
Again, wrap the headings with an anchor tag.

> I worry at the suggestion of several skip links - it could end up like
> my favorite example of how not to do skip links
> (http://www.jimthatcher.com/whatnot2004/CSUN-WN-8.5.htm) where over half
> the words on the page were skip link words.
Yes, that is a good point, if you go too far with skip links than you have
those additional links to tab through too.  There needs to be a balance of
accessiblity to different parts of the page by skipping to them without
wading through a bunch of unwanted skip links.  This is where thought
comes into play when designing a good page.  For example, no need to skip
to the main menu bar from the skip links at the top, because if you have 2
skip links, one to a "page related menu" and one to the start of the
content, then the main menu would be the third tab if it followed the skip
links at the top of the page.
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-Steve
Received on Sunday, 28 March 2004 13:44:03 UTC

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