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Re: [OT] Re: grouping and bypassing links

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@sidar.org>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:17:20 +0100
Message-Id: <38767CC0-5BDC-11D8-9A43-000A958826AA@sidar.org>
Cc: "'WAI Mailing list (E-mail)'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
To: "Andrew Kirkpatrick" <andrew_kirkpatrick@wgbh.org>


On 10 Feb 2004, at 14:39, Andrew Kirkpatrick wrote:
>> As far as I know very old versions of Amaya are the only
>> browser that won't show the content of the map. Some
>> configurations of Lynx, new versions of Amaya, and probably
>> some other browsers, allow you to skip over the entire block
>> with a keystroke or two.
>
> Does Amaya allow you to skip over a list?  I'd like to be able to use:

Yes, in Amaya you can navigate the document tree (up, next/previous, 
first child) directly. The current tree (actual element, parent, 
parent, parent...) is displayed in the status bar. In the structure 
view you can also move from element to element (the navigationn is 
synchronised, and you can hold the two views open at the same time to 
swap between them.

(For all that, you need to write a lot of scripts to use  it with 
screen readers, it is designed as a structured text editor that can 
browse, it doesn't do javascript or plugins, and  there are some odd 
bugs or missing features. But I would find my life much harder without 
it).

Being able to go to next element in other systems might be useful, but 
it would probably remain an advanced feature. Lynx can present the map 
as "map: whatever the title is" - you choose to enter it, and get a 
list of the links, or the next step is to pass over it". I don't think 
it is the default configuration though.

cheers

Chaals

> <ol title="main navigation">...
>
> Instead of:
>
> <map title="main navigation">
> <ol>...
>
> And avoid the <map> altogether.
>
> For screen reader users, newer versions of JAWS and Window-Eyes allow 
> users
> to skip from list to list, which is great, but it would be better if 
> the
> title could be voiced to identify the list.  There is no explicit 
> screen
> reader support that I know of for skipping <map>, but you can skip to 
> the
> next element of the same type as the currently focused element or to 
> the
> next different element type.  These are less useful to the average 
> user than
> they could be because title information about the element is not 
> voiced.
>
> AWK
>
>
>
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Charles McCathieNevile                          Fundación Sidar
charles@sidar.org                                http://www.sidar.org
Received on Tuesday, 10 February 2004 10:20:33 UTC

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