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RE: strange reader behaviour in form elements

From: Jim Thatcher <jim@jimthatcher.com>
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 08:53:46 -0500
To: "'Scarlett Julian'" <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <003c01c4343a$c5076440$6501a8c0@JTCOM2400>

Sure any screen reader should not crash, and most text should be available,
with any Windows application, but to "work with" is quite another story.
Someone referred to MSAA in this thread. In fact JAWS uses the IE DOM and
parses the HTML. More and more screen readers are accessing the private
information of the application. That wasn't true in my screen reader for
OS/2 days but it was essential to tailor the careen reader, to have made a
"profile," for any application you really wanted to use.

Jim
Accessibility, What Not to do: http://jimthatcher.com/whatnot.htm.
Web Accessibility Tutorial: http://jimthatcher.com/webcourse1.htm.


-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of Scarlett Julian
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:20 AM
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: strange reader behaviour in form elements



Hhmm... hadn't thought of that. Surely JAWS is *meant* to work with anything
that is text-based on a Win machine.

Is there a reader that is independent of MSSA that I could use as a test?

J.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: P.H.Lauke [mailto:P.H.Lauke@salford.ac.uk]
> Sent: 07 May 2004 13:56
> To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: RE: strange reader behaviour in form elements
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe off topic, but...is JAWS *meant* to work with Firefox (or
> rather, let's turn this around...is Firefox correctly working with
> Windows' MSSA)?
> It may be an issue on Firefox's end...
> 
> Patrick
> ________________________________
> Patrick H. Lauke
> Webmaster / University of Salford
> http://www.salford.ac.uk
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scarlett Julian [mailto:Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk]
> > Sent: 07 May 2004 13:45
> > To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> > Subject: strange reader behaviour in form elements
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello all
> > 
> > when checking 
> > http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/plugins/education/ics/default.asp 
> > in JAWS 5 I noticed some strange behaviour using Firefox. On 
> > the first select box it JAWS reads out "minus <some enormous 
> > number> of zero". Using IE6 it reads out the correct "1 of 3" 
> > (or whatever it actually is).
> > 
> > Has anyone come across this before and if so any idea what's 
> > happening. 
> > 
> > NOTE - The page is very much work in progress and not 
> > intended for public consumption so, please, only comments 
> > connected to this issue (and possibly the use of DOM scripting).
> > 
> > 
> > many tia
> > 
> > J.
> > 
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