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Re: RE : link in new window debate

From: Info at ATutor <info@atutor.ca>
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:57:10 -0500
Message-ID: <3FBB76B6.2000404@atutor.ca>
To: yoan SIMONIAN <yoan.simonian@snv.jussieu.fr>
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org

Thank you Yoan.

Here's some evidence.  Are popup windows really innaccessible if they 
are opened with a warning? I think not. Even WCAG 1.0 realizes this.

I don''t know if I agree with the _blank opening of new windows though. 
This can result in mutliple windows being opened, and they can create 
confusion, which is what I think others are really trying to argue in 
their "dislike" of popups. Opening all new windows in the same popup 
reduces the chance a blind user will become lost in a desktop full of 
windows.

greg

yoan SIMONIAN wrote:

> On my experience working on BrailleNet(France) with blind people, new
>window is not a real problem if somewhere on code developper take time to
>say that the link open in a new window.
>Pop-up windows have more problems because they use scripts and a lot of
>people don't accept scripts (there is some solutions about that i think).
>
>For us, two solutions can be made :
>1. Write directly on link that the link will open in a new window.
>2. On link title attribute specify for example: title="Visit W3c Website
>(New window)"
>
>Users i know, say to us that with this warning they don't have problems with
>new windows.
>
>And on my own opinion new windows on HTML "_blank" is HTML valid so can't be
>forbiden just adapt to make it more accessible
>
>yoan SIMONIAN
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>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] De la part
>de Jon Gibbins
>Envoyé : mardi 18 novembre 2003 18:46
>À : info@atutor.ca; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
>
>
> > What about opening a help window?
>
>Is it possible for a browser to detect the use of a screen reader? Or other
>assistive technology?
>
>If it could, wouldn't it make life easier for designers? An alternative text
>description of such things as help windows (or complex images like
>maps) could be sent to the screen reader in place of the object. Could
>Javascript be used to open a help window, or, alternatively, send some text
>to the screen reader if one is detected?
>
>.j
>
>PS :: Coincidence? Have been looking at Atutor today and forwarded
>information to a friend.
>
>
>  
>
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