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RE: Tables & Anchors Question

From: Geoff Deering <gdeering@acslink.net.au>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:39:20 +1000
To: "Scott Rippon" <Scott.Rippon@arts.monash.edu.au>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <NBBBJPNFCLNLAADCLFJBEEAIFCAA.gdeering@acslink.net.au>

If it validates it should be okay (I think), except Netscape 4.x and a few
other browsers often don't handle/display <a name="">Name</a> content/tags
when marked up within other tags.  I've always put them outside because of
this reason.  It's a pain.

Geoff

-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On Behalf
Of Scott Rippon
Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2003 11:43 AM
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Tables & Anchors Question

Dear Friends

Does the location of an anchor within a table affect how it is read by a
screen reader?  When I code tables using Dreamweaver MX 6.1 (WYSIWYG
workspace) the anchor is placed within the tables caption like this:

<table border="1" cellspacing="0"
 summary="This table (table 1) contains 4 columns and 3 rows.">
  <caption><a name="table1"></a>Table 1</caption>
  ...

My concern is that when a user reads the page via a screen reader when
they click a link to jump to a table the table summary will be skipped.
How do screen readers handle this?  When adding an anchor should I place
it before the table like this?

<a name="table1"></a>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0"
 summary="This table (table 1) contains 4 columns and 3 rows.">
  <caption>Table 1</caption>
  ...

I marked up and validated the below example and found it was valid HTML
4.01 Transitional code and also valid XHTML 1.1 code (replaced "name"
attribute with "id").

<ul>
  <li><a href="#table1">Table 1</a></li>
  <li><a href="#table2">Table 2</a></li>
  <li><a href="#table3">Table 3</a></li>
</ul>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0"
 summary="This table (table 1) contains 4 columns and 3 rows.">
  <caption><a name="table1"></a>Table 1</caption>
  <thead>
    <tr>
      <th scope="col"><p>C1R1</p></th>
      <th scope="col"><p>C2R1</p></th>
      <th scope="col"><p>C3R1</p></th>
    </tr>
  </thead>
  <tbody>
    <tr>
      <td><p>C1R2</p></td>
      <td><p>C2R2</p></td>
      <td><p>C3R2</p></td>
    </tr>
    <tr class="tblslat">
      <td><p>C1R3</p></td>
      <td><p>C2R3</p></td>
      <td><p>C3R3</p></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td><p>C1R4</p></td>
      <td><p>C2R4</p></td>
      <td><p>C3R4</p></td>
    </tr>
  </tbody>
</table>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0"
 summary="This table (table 2) contains 4 columns and 3 rows.">
  <caption><a name="table2"></a>Table 2</caption>
  <thead>
    <tr>
      <th scope="col"><p>C1R1</p></th>
      <th scope="col"><p>C2R1</p></th>
      <th scope="col"><p>C3R1</p></th>
    </tr>
  </thead>
  <tbody>
    <tr>
      <td><p>C1R2</p></td>
      <td><p>C2R2</p></td>
      <td><p>C3R2</p></td>
    </tr>
    <tr class="Tblslat">
      <td><p>C1R3</p></td>
      <td><p>C2R3</p></td>
      <td><p>C3R3</p></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td><p>C1R4</p></td>
      <td><p>C2R4</p></td>
      <td><p>C3R4</p></td>
    </tr>
  </tbody>
</table>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0"
 summary="This table (table 3) contains 4 columns and 3 rows.">
  <caption><a name="table3"></a>Table 3</caption>
  <thead>
    <tr>
      <th scope="col"><p>C1R1</p></th>
      <th scope="col"><p>C2R1</p></th>
      <th scope="col"><p>C3R1</p></th>
    </tr>
  </thead>
  <tbody>
    <tr>
      <td><p>C1R2</p></td>
      <td><p>C2R2</p></td>
      <td><p>C3R2</p></td>
    </tr>
    <tr class="Tblslat">
      <td><p>C1R3</p></td>
      <td><p>C2R3</p></td>
      <td><p>C3R3</p></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td><p>C1R4</p></td>
      <td><p>C2R4</p></td>
      <td><p>C3R4</p></td>
    </tr>
  </tbody>
</table>

Kind regards,
Scott Rippon.
Received on Wednesday, 22 October 2003 03:42:02 GMT

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