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RE: HTML Headings and Making tThem Not Impact Surrounding Information

From: P.H.Lauke <P.H.Lauke@salford.ac.uk>
Date: 29 Aug 2003 16:39:08 +0100
Message-ID: <3A1D23A330416E4FADC5B6C08CC252B98A3E39@misnts6.mis.salford.ac.uk>
To: gerald.g.weichbrodt@ived.gm.com
Cc: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@comcast.net>, " wai-ig list" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>

A few simple lines of CSS are all it takes to control padding and
margin of headers...e.g.

h1 {
	font-size: 100%; /* or whatever you want */
	padding: 0;
	margin: 0;
}

h2 {
	font-size: 100%;
	padding: 0;
	margin: 1em 0 1em 0; /* top, right, bottom and left margins */
}

Sorry if this sounds blunt, but tell your developers to learn at
least the basics of CSS.

Patrick
________________________________
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster / University of Salford
http://www.salford.ac.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Poehlman [mailto:poehlman1@comcast.net]
> Sent: 29 August 2003 16:28
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> Subject: Fw: HTML Headings and Making tThem Not Impact Surrounding
> Information
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerry Weichbrodt" <gerald.g.weichbrodt@ived.gm.com>
> To: <basr-l@trace.wisc.edu>
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 10:37 AM
> Subject: HTML Headings and Making tThem Not Impact 
> Surrounding Information
> 
> 
> Hi all.  This is sort of a how-to question.  I hope it's not 
> off-topic.
> 
> I have been trying to talk our local IT folks into using true 
> HTML headings
> as a means of labeling sections of their web pages because of 
> the support
> that screen readers and some other browsing devices give to 
> using headings
> as sort of an outline for the page.
> 
> Standard equipment on most computers around here is Internet 
> Explorer 6.
> Most others are slightly earlier versions of IE and perhaps 
> some Netscape
> 4.7 and the like.
> 
> My understanding is that you should be able to use cascading 
> stylesheets to
> tailor the text size and such for headings, thus removing the 
> argument that
> the default type is too large and such.  However, I 
> understand that, at
> least in Internet Explorer, even if you've adjusted the type 
> size to your
> liking, IE makes some assumptions about the layout of text around the
> headings, and it likes to leave extra space below the text 
> that has been
> marked up as a heading.  The developers say that this extra 
> space messes up
> their page layout, so they are reluctant to implement use of 
> true headings
> even though they appreciate the value to a few of us of such headings.
> 
> My question is, is there a way to get tighter control of 
> headings so that
> they really can be used to demarcate information that is meant to be a
> heading without imposing restrictions on the layout around 
> them? I would
> love to come up with a suggestion that would make all of us happy.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jerry Weichbrodt
> 
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