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Re: Decorators with keyboards

From: Section 508.US <tagi11@cox.net>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:27:23 -0500
Message-ID: <007d01c34d27$f0e7eb20$6400a8c0@n7v4j1>
To: "Julia Collins" <julia@we3.co.uk>, "Stephen Morgan at Idamus" <sgsmorgan@idamus.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>

The International Center for Disability Resources on the Internet and some
members of the Internet Society Disability and Special Needs Chapter
www.icdri.org and http://www.isocdisab.org/  have persons who have courses
on Internet Law,  Accessibility, Usability and other topics. Contact:
Michael Burks mailto:mburks952@att.net
or myself. Classes and Courses range from 2 hours to 2 days or more
depending on what your needs are.
Rates are reasonable compared to customary charges for this type of
training.

M

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Michael Van Randen
Web Accessibility and Usability Consultant
1236 Greystone Lane
Pensacola Florida, 32514
850-206-4715
tagi11@cox.net

"Counting users on the Internet is like counting the number
 of people using wheelchairs who are inside an inaccessible
 building.  It was once thought that since no wheelchair users
 were in the building, ramps were not needed. "
UNDERSTANDING THE DIGITAL ECONOMY
 Copyright  1999-2003 Cynthia D. Waddell JD
Executive Director of ICDRI
http://www.icdri.org/CynthiaW/the_digital_divide.htm

Access not exclusion
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julia Collins" <julia@we3.co.uk>
To: "Stephen Morgan at Idamus" <sgsmorgan@idamus.com>; <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: Decorators with keyboards



On 18/7/03 9:17 am, "Stephen Morgan at Idamus" <sgsmorgan@idamus.com> wrote:

> We work with a lot of design agencies and our brief quite often is to take
> the designs and write the coding and programming that will make them work.
> You would not believe the crap that comes out of some design agencies.
This
> business has too many people who do not understand the difference between
> design for print and design for the web.
>
It's about education. We are learning all the time, and we have to be
positive and pro-active. There has always been a tekkies/luvvies divide, but
really really it's better if we acknowledge each others' skills and educate
and inform one another, seeing the final product as a joint enterprise.

 Does anyone know of anyone who runs seminars on accessibility/usability for
design agencies?  In view of the forthcoming lawsuits, etc, this might be a
good business proposition (as well as endless good karma)?

btw, as a past print designer (and yes, once, but briefly, a pixel perfect
dreamweaver jockey and now, a burgeoning css/user testing queen - there's
evolution for you) the notion of accessibiity for print is almost as big a
question as that for the web.  The battle between "cool" (8pt gill with 16pt
leading??) and "accessible" (you have to use at least 14pt serifed face to
be legible??) is legendary. ( Neither of course is right, we are talking
dialectics and suitability for purpose here).

The great joy of the web is that you can look good AND be accessible to
everyone. And since design is all about problem solving, what an exciting
thing to be doing.

Julia
(back at work again)
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