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Re: screen readers for macs - also bobby question

From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 22:06:32 -0500
To: Access Systems <accessys@smart.net>
Cc: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-id: <000701c2e5e8$e3efc470$6501a8c0@handsontech>

That is a good question, but I guess education is the only answer.  if it is
tagged with an alt and the alt is "" I suppose some thought at least went
into it.  If that much thought went into it, I doubt someting with meaning
would be tagged with alt="".

----- Original Message -----
From: "Access Systems" <accessys@smart.net>
To: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@comcast.net>
Cc: "David Woolley" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>; <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: screen readers for macs - also bobby question


On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, David Poehlman wrote:

> I disagree with this.  AS a braille display user, I don't need nonsense on
> my display.  alt="" is the magic string for nonesential images.

true, but how do you know it is "nonsense" if it not tagged with an alt
description...

Bob

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Access Systems" <accessys@smart.net>
> To: "David Woolley" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
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> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:51 AM
> Subject: Re: screen readers for macs - also bobby question
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>
>
> On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, David Woolley wrote:
>
> > > example 2: for purely decorative images it has become
> > > general practise to use empty alt attributes.  that is
> > > just to satisfy bobby and wai.  how is that more
> > > accessible than a missing alt attribute?
> >
> > A missing alt makes the HTML invalid.  I think the idea was that
requiring
> > the attribute would make people think about it, but, of course, people
> just
>
> and if you are using text, you never know wheather it is "just for
> pretty" or critical information...I think EVERY piece of graphic no matter
> how unimportant the writer thinks it is (well it must be important he
> coded it) it should be left to the reader to decide if it is
> valuable. even if the alt tag is "pretty curlicues" it should be there.  I
> don't think any alt should ever be empty for any reason if it displays for
> any user the information should be there for every user.
>
> Bob
>
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