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Re: Why would link title = link text?

From: Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:08:28 +0100
Cc: Bill Mason <w3c@accessibleinter.net>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
To: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
Message-Id: <AAD55A62-64EA-11D7-811E-0003939B5AD0@btinternet.com>

If tabbing / onfocus produces a tooltip, or the title is presented 
elsewhere, as in the status bar, then this would produce a very useful 
result for those wishing to scan a document.

font-size for the document can be small with title (tooltip) font-size 
large.

Jonathan


On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 03:33 AM, Al Gilman wrote:

>
> At 05:50 PM 2003-03-31, Bill Mason wrote:
>
>> I keep running into this and today I just couldn't hold the question 
>> in anymore.
>>
>> Why would you bother setting the title attribute on an <a> tag to the 
>> same value as the link text of the <a> tag?
>>
>> Example: just about every link on http://www.firstgov.gov/
>
> Maybe the answer has something to do with the actual experience of the 
> web
> with actual screen readers.
>
> What screen reader is the most influential as far as U.S. Government
> Webmasters' appreciation of "the web through a screen reader"?
>
> Google for "link title jaws" and you get an earful.
>
> Like, [possibly changed recently] a setting that will get you the link 
> text
> or the link title (but not both) on all links with both -- you choose.
>
> Also I saw a page at the University of Minnesota teaching how to user 
> Jaws,
> but since it is at the top of the Google hit list there are lots of
> references to it, and webmasters are likely to find it when wanting to 
> know
> how Jaws works, anyway.  Anyhow the examples of the virtues of a title 
> here
> were links with URLs in the link text and good link text in the title.
>
> Then consider how often the link text on links is indeed
> "http://gar.bag.e/more/junk/which/gets/s.p.e.l.l.e.d" and consider why 
> some
> users would _want_ to set the switch for just the title and not the 
> link
> text, given the frequency with which they encounter links like that.
>
> Put the good text both places and users with a critical need for good 
> link
> description will get it one way or the other.  But not both anyway.  
> Only
> the popup consumer gets the redundant info.  And since the popup 
> display
> accentuates the message more than the link-styling effect, there is 
> actually
> value in having the advert for the destination pop up by itself 
> onMouseOver.
>
> Hmmm.  I never know what people are thinking, but if that was what 
> they were
> thinking, would it be a total shock?
>
> Al
>
>
>
>> Bill Mason
>> Accessible Internet
>> w3c@accessibleinter.net
>> http://www.accessibleinter.net/
>
Received on Wednesday, 2 April 2003 04:05:57 GMT

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