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RE: Media - Suit Over Airlines' Web Sites Tests Bounds of ADA

From: Access Systems <accessys@smart.net>
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:02:52 -0400 (EDT)
To: Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0210081855210.8234-100000@smarty.smart.net>

On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Phill Jenkins wrote:

> >... IF you code to W3C formats I could
> >pull out my (still working) Victor 9000, 8086 machine with Dos 2.1 and the
> >old 300 baud modem and read and use the site....(when I first logged on to
> >the net it was with a 16.5 baud modem, see I do believe some things are
> >obsolete)
> 
> OK Bob, where do we draw the line?

good question, and I really don't know the answer...certainly straight
text users must be supported and Lynx is probably the most popular text
browser

> Can I use HTML 2.0, 3.2, 4.01, or XHTML?
> Can I use W3C's SMIL?
> Can I use W3C's CSS2?
> Can I use any W3C specification?
> Can I use any public standard? (i.e., gif, jpg,etc.)?

don't think I would go that far

> Can I use JavaScript? Why not, it's a public ECMA standard.

right but at the moment it is not a very usable standard for many machines

> Why do you insist that the "problem" or "burden" is with the authors and
> not the developers of Lynx that don't support all of the W3C and other
> public standards?  Again I argue that it would be more effective to fix
> Lynx than to fix the millions of applications already written.

nothing major wrong with Lynx, another updated version is in beta test
now, the last version was released less than a year ago. it is a mature
and supported browser.  but you want it to do what it was never designed
to do and most users of it don't want it to do. (although I believe some
javascript support will be incorporated)
  Lynx is a TEXT browser and that is what it is designed to be

> and why do *you* get to decide that "a 16.5 baud modem" is obsolete? or
> that a 300 baud isn't?

hmmm, maybe your right and that 16.5 baud modem is not obsolete, however
the reason I said it was obsolete is that it uses a language that is not
and has not been supported for many many years...it doesn't use the ASCII
code 

> If I code to HTML 4 will your DOS 2.1 machine get it?

good question, if I were more energetic I would dig it out and try, the
major problem is that the modem is kaput and it won't drive my current
modems their too fast.

Bob
> [again my personal opinions]

yeah me too

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