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Re: RE[2]: non-sgml characters

From: Steven McCaffrey <smccaffr@MAIL.NYSED.GOV>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:32:13 -0400
Message-Id: <sd32ceec.001@MAIL.NYSED.GOV>
To: <asgilman@iamdigex.net>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Hi Al:

     Thanks much, just what I was looking for.
I also found the Character Model document quite informative and at the level I had in mind.

Steve


Sorry for the multiple messages. 

for a more tutorial starting point consider 

http://www.htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=character+entities 

And start with the first link in the search results. 

HTH 

Al 

At 08:26 AM 2002-07-15, Steven McCaffrey wrote: 
>Apparently there is also unicode and SGML. Is there a overview of the different kinds of icon representation methods that does not get too detailed about the inner workings of each character set. 

Steve, 

I don't know if this is going to be readable enough or not. 

What Google came up with for me as the lead hit was 

http://www.w3.org/International/O-charset.html 

Read down through the Dan Connolly note about "charsets considered harmful" 
and Glenn's response to that. 

Another starting point is the Character Model document 

http://www.w3.org/TR/charmod/ 

Please tell us if either of these works for you. 

Al 

PS: For what it's worth the search query I used was 

http://www.google.com/search?q=character+set+vs.+character+encoding 


>Hello all: 
> 
> I too have been looking for a standard set of icons. Additionally, though, since I am blind I am really looking for a table that would be like: 
>description:code - that is, two text columns. 
>(e.g. trademark symbol:&#153) 
>I am unfamiliar with the methods to do this so probably confuse things. 
>There are "entities" in HTML such as &sup for superscript that JFW 4.01 reads very well (JFW says "superscript"). 
>Apparently there is also unicode and SGML. Is there a overview of the different kinds of icon representation methods that does not get too detailed about the inner workings of each character set. 
> 
>Thanks, 
> 
> 
>Steve 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>>> "Jon Hanna" < jon@spin.ie > 07/15/02 07:54AM >>> 
> 
>> I used "&#153;" on a site to represent the TM Symbol, an unregistered 
>> Trademark. Apparently this is a reference to a non-SGML character. 
> 
>Yep, 153 is the position in the windows character set. Its Unicode position 
>is 0x2122 (or 8482 in decimal) so you can use &#x2122; or &#8482; 
> 
>You could also try &trade; though that depends more on browser support. 
> 
>AFAIR There is no character 153 (though I'm not too sure), hence the browser 
>was able to realise you'd made a mistake and guess that you wanted the 
>windows character of that position. 
> 
>(It's not an SGML thing as such, SGML uses character sets defined elsewhere, 
>similarly with XML - and hence HTML since HTML has been XML for the last 3 
>years). 


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