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Re: screen magnifiers and fragmented text

From: Michelle Podd <mpodd@iqnetcom.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:54:48 -0500
Message-ID: <005a01c1c91d$753867f0$6600a8c6@iqnetcom.local>
To: "Mike Scott" <mscott2@msfw.com>
Cc: "WAI \(E-mail\)" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
That makes alot of sense. I'm using a dark grey for my main body text. She
wasn't experiencing problems on areas where there was a colored background
and she was experiencing problems on another website featuring black text on
a while background. In that case, only the link text was garbled because
it's a different colour.

Thanks, Mike.

Michelle



----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Scott" <mscott2@msfw.com>
To: "'Michelle Podd'" <mpodd@iqnetcom.com>; "'WAI (E-mail)'"
<w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:16 AM
Subject: RE: screen magnifiers and fragmented text


> Michelle,
>
> It's not your page, it's the screen magnifier. ZoomText (which is likely
> what she is using) has some limitations in it's ability to "smooth" text
> of different colors. (Smoothing is used to help reduce the "pixelation"
> of text at high magnification.) By default, ZoomText "smoothes" black
> text on a white background and vice versa. With this setting, text of
> other colors is not smoothed, and some color combinations - such as
> colored text on a white background - can actually be slightly garbled.
> To confirm, you can ask the user to turn smoothing off, or you can set
> your font color to black...
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of Michelle Podd
> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:31 AM
> To: WAI (E-mail)
> Subject: screen magnifiers and fragmented text
>
> Anyone ever have text "fragment" when using a screen magnifier? Any
> ideas why that would happen?
>
> At www.accessdome.com/preview I'm using Verdana as a main body font. The
> size is expressed in em's. I'm getting a feedback from a lady using
> Zoomtext Extra Level 2 on a new PC through IE6. She tells me that the
> software acts as a screen magnifier and a screen reader. On the
> magnification side, she says that the headings (which are Georgia font)
> enlarge just fine while some (but not all) of the body text fragments
> and is hard to read when magnified. I asked her to look at the National
> Organization on Disability site
>
> http://www.nod.org/cont/dsp_cont_loc_hme.cfm?locationId=12&locationNm=Ho
> me ) which I'm told is highly accessible. Her feedback was that the
> regular text enlarged properly but any link text was fragmented.
>
> My only guess is regarding the use of styles - the inheritance rule.
> Netscape 4.x has inheritance issues (among many many many other problems
> but I won't go there). I've got a separate style sheet for Netscape
> however in places where it doesn't listen to the font-size, I add a
> class to force it. For example, I have a style applied to <p> and <td>.
> In my web page, I have a table. IE 5.x renders the font just fine but in
> Netscape, it ignored the size (it displayed the proper font-family
> however so go figure). So I add class="table" (which contain the same
> properties as my regular body font) to the table tag then most times,
> the font size displays properly in both IE5.x and Netscapte 4.x.  Here's
> part of my netscape style sheet. The one for "everyone else" is exactly
> the same, only the values are different.
>
> p, body
> {
> font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;
> font-size: .8em;
> color: #333333;
> }
>
> p
> {line-height: 1.1em;}
>
> .table
> {
> font-size: .8em;
> line-height: 1.1em;
> }
>
> td
> {
> font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;
> font-size: .8em;
> color: #333333;
> }
>
> So, do you think the fragmentation occurs because of a style being
> applied twice?
>
> Any assistance is appreciated,
> Michelle Podd
> Web Designer
>
>
>
>
Received on Monday, 11 March 2002 11:56:06 GMT

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