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RE: pdf as text??

From: Scarlett Julian (ED) <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:33:28 +0100
Message-ID: <F9BE3B1AB649D311A573009027852E4D01E34B33@EDUC_MXS>
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org

Jonathan

you're confusing accessibility with availability. Just because your systems
admin people don't install a piece of software doesn't automatically mean
that the content delivered by that software is inaccessible. 

If I worked somewhere where the powers that be refused to install a browser
on my computer would that make html inaccessible? I don't think so.

Julian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jonathan chetwynd [mailto:j.chetwynd@btinternet.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 2:35 PM
> To: Jason Megginson; Access Systems; RUST Randal
> Cc: 'Tina Marie Holmboe'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: Re: pdf as text??
> 
> 
> 
> Our college has NO yes that's right no computers with a pdf reader
> installed, that is teaching staff and students.
> some hundreds of machines, how accessible is that?
> 
> thanks
> 
> jonathan
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Megginson" <jason@bartsite.com>
> To: "Access Systems" <accessys@smart.net>; "RUST Randal"
> <RRust@COVANSYS.com>
> Cc: "'Tina Marie Holmboe'" <tina@elfi.org>; <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 2:07 PM
> Subject: RE: pdf as text??
> 
> 
> >
> > In my opinion, the .pdf files are not as accessible because 
> tables cannot
> be
> > precisely marked up as HTML tables.  (ie. corresponding 
> data cells to
> table
> > headers, etc.).
> >
> > And as far as overall accessibility, one would need Adobe 
> to obtain the
> .pdf
> > information rather than obtaining it through many mediums 
> with ASCII text
> > online.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
> > Behalf Of Access Systems
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:12 AM
> > To: RUST Randal
> > Cc: 'Tina Marie Holmboe'; 'w3c-wai-ig@w3.org'
> > Subject: RE: pdf as text??
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > a friend is trying to convince me that a pdf text file is 
> the same as
> > putting the site up in html text,   no matter how hard I 
> try he can't
> > (won't) get it that pdf in and of itself is graphics even 
> if the graphic
> > is of text
> >    am I missing something here or is this guy totally off 
> the mark??  he's
> > claiming it will be compliant that way (but won't give me 
> the URL so I can
> > test it before it is done, says he)
> >
> > thanks
> > Bob
> >
> >    ASCII Ribbon Campaign                        accessBob
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> >     NO MSWord docs in e-mail                    Access 
> Systems, engineers
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> >
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> 
> 
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