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Re: place-holding characters in form elements

From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 08:11:05 -0400
To: Jukka Korpela <jukka.korpela@tieke.fi>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-id: <00af01c20252$ea4528d0$91e03244@DAVIDPOEHLMAN>
you cannot prevent people from entering incorrect data either but we
deal.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jukka Korpela" <jukka.korpela@tieke.fi>
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:54 AM
Subject: RE: place-holding characters in form elements


Scarlett Julian wrote:

> Priority 10.4 states that form text areas should have default
> place-holding characters.

(You mean Guideline 10.4. (It is at priority level 3.))

> This is causing us some grief

Many people share your opinions and views. The "place-holding
characters"
might help people using some old software, but they probably cause more
problems than benefits. Besides, they are illogical, and using them
conflicts with genuine default values provided by authors.

> If the user tabs to the text area it seems that the default text is
> highlighted and then overtyped but how can I make this happen
> with someone who uses a mouse (without resorting to client side
> javascript).

You can't.

My advice is: Don't use place-holding characters. (They are sometimes
claimed to give information about the kind of data that is expected, but
any
need for such hints is caused by lack of adequate explanations and
labels
before the fields.)

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