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RE: Acrobat PDF & Accessibility

From: Access Systems <accessys@smart.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:51:28 -0500 (EST)
To: Jason Megginson <jason@bartsite.com>
cc: "'Ken Reader'" <kreader@attaininc.org>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0112211543090.25243-100000@smarty.smart.net>
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Jason Megginson wrote:

> But what if, Bob, in some weird universe people use Microsoft products?

that would be a weird universe

> Which, in my opinion does a great job with accessibility?  Well, you can

opps, we disagree there that is for sure, I have seen much better, in fact
just about every other operating system

> I think you're missing the point.  

which is?  my point is 

"that nothing on the internet should be operating system specific"
> 
> And, Bob, not everyone uses lynx or text only browsers either.  

no, of course not  but Lynx and text are independent of operating systems,
they will both work on windoz machines, and I have but rarely use Netscape
and Mozila and a number of other browsers, I happen to like text only and
lynx is fast and bullet proof, not to mention, pretty much universally
accessible no matter what platform it is operated on. 

the Operating system, be it Linux, Unix, Mac, Sun, windoz, or what ever
should not be a requirement to view anything on the internet..that was the
beauty of the internet, it was independent of operating system
archetecture

and as far as I know every operating system in the world can read ASCII
accurately 

Bob
> 
> and if you don't run Microshaft software???
> 
> EVERYTHING on the web should be operating system independent!
> oh heck just output the stuff as ASCII text and be done with it
> 
> Bob
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On
> > Behalf Of Ken Reader
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:50 AM
> > To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: Acrobat PDF & Accessibility
> > 
> > I agree with joel.  With all the trouble it takes to make the pdf
> > accessible it is just easier to go ahead and put it up in html.
> > 
> > Ken Reader
> > IT Coordinator
> > ATTAIN, Inc.
> > 2346 S. Lynhurst Drive
> > STE 507
> > Indianapolis, IN 46241
> > Telephone (317) 486-8808
> > Fax (317) 486-8809
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joel Ward [mailto:ward_joel@bah.com]
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:40 AM
> > To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: Acrobat PDF & Accessibility
> > 
> > 
> > The rare PDF that includes internal navigation is tolerable, but I
> have
> > never found a PDF that is as easy to read in a browser as a standard
> > HTML
> > document.  If I want to read the content in full, I will usually print
> > the
> > PDF.  I've gone through many wasted reams of paper that way.  :-)
> > 
> > Much like with HTML pages, PDFs can be done well and PDFs can be done
> > poorly.  The fault often lies with the document's designer/coder.
> > 
> > For viewing online, you can make a PDF document work much like a
> > standard
> > HTML page.  But why bother?  Just make a standard HTML page!
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jon Hanna" <jon@spinsol.com>
> > To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:23 AM
> > Subject: RE: Acrobat PDF & Accessibility
> > 
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> 
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