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Re: Acrobat PDF & Accessibility

From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:00:04 -0500
Message-ID: <000b01c189a1$ae6e78e0$c2f20141@mtgmry1.md.home.com>
To: "Access Systems" <accessys@smart.net>
Cc: "William R Williams/R5/USDAFS" <wrwilliams@fs.fed.us>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
actually, it is a complex portable document format p d f that is
supposed to be cross platform compatible.  now if I could directly
import it into word or a dos word processor or my favorite linux/unix
flavor we'd have something.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Access Systems" <accessys@smart.net>
To: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com>
Cc: "William R Williams/R5/USDAFS" <wrwilliams@fs.fed.us>;
<w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Acrobat PDF & Accessibility


On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, David Poehlman wrote:

maybe I'm wrong but isn't pdf a "photograph" of the page rather than
actual letter codeing, sort of like a fax vs teletype machine??

> I'm not sure what you mean here bob but I think I agree <grin>  The
> trouble with the whole pdf thing is that html has been around since
the
> beginning of time and can be accessed by just about anything although
I
> remember a time in the dim and distant past when there was no such
thing
> in my world as an internet browser or an html converter so it wouldn't
> have done me much good.  Having said that, much of pdf if it is
produced
> propperly can be accessed or converted into something accessible by
one
> tool or another provided that one of the considerations that it is

LYNX or at least my version of it chokes on pdf

Bob

> treated with is allowance of the opperation.  Trouble is that there
are
> too many documents out there already done rong and too many people
still
> doing documents rong and it is still too easy to do it rong lots like
> the web to make pdf worth the trip.
>
> This is not opinion.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Access Systems" <accessys@smart.net>
> To: "William R Williams/R5/USDAFS" <wrwilliams@fs.fed.us>
> Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Acrobat PDF & Accessibility
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, William R Williams/R5/USDAFS wrote:
>
> > It's been debated often, I suspect; yet, if my experience means
> anything,
> > much disagreement exists about the "true" accessibility of pdfs on
the
> web.
> > Certainly, Adobe has promoted the application and worked diligently
to
> make
> > them accessible, but others - such as Jakob Nielsen - suggest
avoiding
> pdfs
> > for on-screen delivery.
> >
> > I know there are definite usability issues, but how does this group
> stand
> > on the accessibility of PDFs?
>
>
> not group, but  NEVER!!!!
>
> post em and then mail the URL
>
> Bob
>
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