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Re: FWD: CHI-WEB: Amazon's version for the Visually Impaired

From: Access Systems <accessys@smart.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 09:46:03 -0500 (EST)
To: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0112150942080.29196-100000@smarty.smart.net>
On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, David Woolley wrote:

also to add to this is the cost of linking to the net, many countries and
the USA on some plans charge by the minute/sec for access, and if the
lines are not high quality or capacity which can mean high costs for
qlitz.  and we are probably talking over 2/3 of the people in the world
have this issue


> > THe 2.0 guidelines are designed to cover the changed circumstance that XML
> > is the current way to present content and Presentation is separated by such
> That is not the perception of designers.  They still keep asking on
> www-html for changes in the HTML standard after discovering that XHTML
> transitional doesn't support certain proprietory presentational attributes
> associated with frames and framesets (and most of them haven't realised
> that frames are deprecated and require semantics outside of CSS, with
> transitional XHTML).  They hanker for HTML (NS4) and HTML (IE5), not
> XML/CSS or even HTML (W3C).
> Most content authors (and even more content commissioners) seem unable
> to understand the simple structure of HTML, so will want to stick with
> tag soup implementations of it rather than move to strictly structured
> XML (they are probably lost causes for many accessibility features, but
> I would argue that they represent the majority of real life pages -
> even the National Organisation for Disablities web page quoted recently
> was structurally broken, one of the reasons why it couldn't get level
> 2 compliance).
> Also, from a generalised accessibility point of view, there are now 
> HTML appliances locked into HTML 3.2 (approx) which are the means to
> provide web access to those too old to learn new technologies (the
> video recorder programming syndrome) and which may well have lifetimes of
> the order of a decade.  Also, in many parts of the world people's only
> access to the internet is through machines that are too old to run
> the browsers needed for XML/CSS.
> In the context of Bobby, one member of this list indicated that they
> have very limited financial means.  That, again, is an indication that
> many disabled (not those interesting to businesses, though) will have
> great financial difficulties in tracking technology - this applies to
> the "digital divide" more generally.

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