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RE: FWD: CHI-WEB: Amazon's version for the Visually Impaired

From: Jim Thatcher <jim@jimthatcher.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:50:02 -0600
To: Access Systems <accessys@smart.net>, Jim Thatcher <jim@jimthatcher.com>
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org, Jon Hanna <jon@spinsol.com>
Message-id: <NDBBKJDAKKEJDCICIODLGEPODLAA.jim@jimthatcher.com>
Bob,

Your reply is disconcerting. It is frustrating to find folks interpreting
508 in their own way, without reading it carefully.

LYNX doesn't support JavaScript (and PINE is an email client), so LYNX is an
irrelevant litmus tests for 508 compliance. But as to the subject of this
thread, amazon.com/access is fine with LYNX.

Jim
jim@jimthatcher.com
Accessibility Consulting
http://jimthatcher.com
512-306-0931

-----Original Message-----
From: Access Systems [mailto:accessys@smart.net]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 4:32 PM
To: Jim Thatcher
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org; Jon Hanna
Subject: RE: FWD: CHI-WEB: Amazon's version for the Visually Impaired


On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Jim Thatcher wrote:

> Almost every message about this site on two list discussions I am watching
> has been critical in one way or another. What do commercial firms have to
> do? Come to you and get your blessing before they launch SOMETHING? (I
would
> hate to try to get it!)

no it is easy.

try to use your site using web browser LYNX and e-mail PINE I believe
these are listed by name in section 508 as a minimum standard (part of the
reason I run em) then of course visit "bobby"


if you can use your site then it has probably a 99.9% chance of being
compliant.

if you are not proud of what you get or cannot use it effectively the same
as your site using a graphics browser then it probably is going to be a
problem

Bob

>
> I don't really think this was designed for accessibility. As I said in a
> previous message, even the simplest accessibility things haven't been done
> like labeling form elements and including alt text. BUT, given what they
> have done so far, it would be EASY to fix those problems. They have tried
to
> present the essence of Amazon.com (an editorial decision, which only they
> can make) without all the glitz and I think they have done a very good job
> of that.
>
> I believe that this shopping site is an order of magnitude more accessible
> than almost all other shopping sites, certainly all major shopping sites.
>
> Jim
> jim@jimthatcher.com
> Accessibility Consulting
> http://jimthatcher.com
> 512-306-0931
>
> -----Original Message-----
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