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RE: Poor DVD menu design

From: Harry Woodorw <harrry@email.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:20:08 +0800
To: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com>, "geoff freed" <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>, "SHARPE, Ian" <Ian.SHARPE@cambridge.sema.slb.com>, "WAI" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, <w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org>
Message-ID: <LDEMKFBKJGCANBEJGEOIEEKFCBAA.harrry@email.com>
The new DVD Moulin Roughe has a special track for visually impaired viewers.
I did not have time to check it out as it was a friends but it sounds a
great addition.

Harry Woodrow

-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2001 10:36 PM
To: geoff freed; SHARPE, Ian; WAI; w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org
Subject: Re: Poor DVD menu design


that was it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "geoff freed" <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>
To: "SHARPE, Ian" <Ian.SHARPE@cambridge.sema.slb.com>; "WAI"
<w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>; <w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org>; "David Poehlman"
<poehlman1@home.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Poor DVD menu design


You're probably thinking of "Abraham and Mary Lincoln:  A House
Divided", which is now available for purchase from PBS Online at

http://www.shop.pbs.org

It has captions, descriptions and audio navigation, too.  The press
release is at

http://ncam.wgbh.org/news/pr_08282001.html

Thanks.
Geoff/NCAM


On Tuesday, December 11, 2001, David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com>
wrote:
>it's on my wish list.  I think this is one of the most exciting things
>that has happened in a long time.  You should be aware though that if
>someone is just browsing for dvds, they have to carefully read the fine
>print to know that it is audio described.  I'll be interested in seeing
>what it is like.  Also, wasn't there some other ddvd that was handed
out
>at conventions?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "geoff freed" <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>
>To: "SHARPE, Ian" <Ian.SHARPE@cambridge.sema.slb.com>; "WAI"
><w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>; "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com>;
><w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:33 AM
>Subject: Re: Poor DVD menu design
>
>
>
>NCAM has been exploring solutions to DVD access and, most recently,
>worked with Universal Studios Home Video to add access features to "Dr.
>Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas".  The DVD features captions,
>audio descriptions and full audio navigation, and is the first
Hollywood
>film made fully accessible on DVD .  For complete information, read the
>press release at
>
>http://ncam.wgbh.org/news/pr_11162001.html
>
>Geoff Freed
>Project Manager
>CPB/WGBH National Center for Accessible Media (NCAM)
>WGBH Educational Foundation
>
>
>
>On Monday, December 10, 2001, David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com>
wrote:
>>I use a dvd player and there does seem to be some commonality to
>things.
>>I love the x file series and once it was pointed out how to navigate
>it,
>>the same format has held through for all three of the seasons I have.
>>Often, I can just hit play twice if I want the movie or the first
>>eppisode but It does get frustrating sometimes especially if you don't
>>know how the dvd is layed ou.  There aren't too many combinations of
>>ways that it works tat I have seen so far though so a bit of trial and
>>error done carefully usually provides me with results.  Also,
>>interestingly, there are sound as well as visual cues in most of the
>dvd
>>interfaces I have used such that when you are in a different menu, the
>>sound is different.
>>
>>This is indeed a fascinating discussion.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "SHARPE, Ian" <Ian.SHARPE@cambridge.sema.slb.com>
>>To: "WAI (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>>Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:23 AM
>>Subject: RE: Poor DVD menu design
>>
>>
>>Agreed. I am partially sighted and have only used the PC software but
>>simply
>>can't use some DVDs!! The only ones I can use took me a frustrating
age
>>to
>>work out by clicking on various areas of the screen which looked like
>>they
>>might do something, finding out they exited the menu and having to
>start
>>again!! (But then Buffy series 1 was worth it!) Why they couldn't
>simply
>>put
>>a verbal instruction on or offer a basic text menu alternative I have
>no
>>idea!!? Even sighted friends don't like the awkward interface and
>>navigation
>>functionality. Don't think I'd be able to use it at all on a DVD
>>player!!
>>
>>Would be interested to know if there are standards and where this fits
>>into
>>the world of accessible technology?
>>
>>Cheers
>>Ian
>>
>>
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