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RE: Poor DVD menu design

From: Harry Woodorw <harrry@email.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:20:08 +0800
To: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com>, "geoff freed" <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>, "SHARPE, Ian" <Ian.SHARPE@cambridge.sema.slb.com>, "WAI" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, <w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org>
The new DVD Moulin Roughe has a special track for visually impaired viewers.
I did not have time to check it out as it was a friends but it sounds a
great addition.

Harry Woodrow

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2001 10:36 PM
To: geoff freed; SHARPE, Ian; WAI; w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org
Subject: Re: Poor DVD menu design

that was it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "geoff freed" <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>
To: "SHARPE, Ian" <Ian.SHARPE@cambridge.sema.slb.com>; "WAI"
<w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>; <w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org>; "David Poehlman"
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Poor DVD menu design

You're probably thinking of "Abraham and Mary Lincoln:  A House
Divided", which is now available for purchase from PBS Online at


It has captions, descriptions and audio navigation, too.  The press
release is at



On Tuesday, December 11, 2001, David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com>
>it's on my wish list.  I think this is one of the most exciting things
>that has happened in a long time.  You should be aware though that if
>someone is just browsing for dvds, they have to carefully read the fine
>print to know that it is audio described.  I'll be interested in seeing
>what it is like.  Also, wasn't there some other ddvd that was handed
>at conventions?
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "geoff freed" <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>
>To: "SHARPE, Ian" <Ian.SHARPE@cambridge.sema.slb.com>; "WAI"
><w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>; "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com>;
>Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:33 AM
>Subject: Re: Poor DVD menu design
>NCAM has been exploring solutions to DVD access and, most recently,
>worked with Universal Studios Home Video to add access features to "Dr.
>Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas".  The DVD features captions,
>audio descriptions and full audio navigation, and is the first
>film made fully accessible on DVD .  For complete information, read the
>press release at
>Geoff Freed
>Project Manager
>CPB/WGBH National Center for Accessible Media (NCAM)
>WGBH Educational Foundation
>On Monday, December 10, 2001, David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com>
>>I use a dvd player and there does seem to be some commonality to
>>I love the x file series and once it was pointed out how to navigate
>>the same format has held through for all three of the seasons I have.
>>Often, I can just hit play twice if I want the movie or the first
>>eppisode but It does get frustrating sometimes especially if you don't
>>know how the dvd is layed ou.  There aren't too many combinations of
>>ways that it works tat I have seen so far though so a bit of trial and
>>error done carefully usually provides me with results.  Also,
>>interestingly, there are sound as well as visual cues in most of the
>>interfaces I have used such that when you are in a different menu, the
>>sound is different.
>>This is indeed a fascinating discussion.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "SHARPE, Ian" <Ian.SHARPE@cambridge.sema.slb.com>
>>To: "WAI (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>>Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:23 AM
>>Subject: RE: Poor DVD menu design
>>Agreed. I am partially sighted and have only used the PC software but
>>can't use some DVDs!! The only ones I can use took me a frustrating
>>work out by clicking on various areas of the screen which looked like
>>might do something, finding out they exited the menu and having to
>>again!! (But then Buffy series 1 was worth it!) Why they couldn't
>>a verbal instruction on or offer a basic text menu alternative I have
>>idea!!? Even sighted friends don't like the awkward interface and
>>functionality. Don't think I'd be able to use it at all on a DVD
>>Would be interested to know if there are standards and where this fits
>>the world of accessible technology?
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