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RE: Information on accessibility of XFORMS

From: SHARPE, Ian <Ian.SHARPE@cambridge.sema.slb.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:36:00 -0000
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To: "WAI (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Hi Jon

I apologies if you have misunderstood my comments as an attack on Davids
reply as this 
was and certainly is not the case or my intention. 

I will however confess to being disheartened to hear that we should simply
ignore XFORMS until some time in the future was really my point. I am
interested in learning more about XFORMS for  my work as a solution
architect and believed they would be a door opener being built on XML with
it's obvious benefits of mainpulating presentation. I just get frustrated
hearing that we will not be able to do something until.... whenever a new
product or technology is released. When new offices or communal buildings
are built they all have to provide access to people with disabilities.  Why
shouldn't the same be true for new technologies and products? Yes, I know
this will not always be possible due to the nature of a particular
technology and practicle due to financial/business constraints but surely we
should be taking a more positive view?

If I am asked to build a system involving XFORMS next week, even if it is
not yet practical to provide accessibility, I would still like to know what
I can do to maximise the likelyhood of it being accessible whenever it
becomes feasible. To this end, having found the reference to a liason with
WAI on the accessibility of XFORMS at:

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/

I would be interested to know the outcome of this liason and whether any
standards or guidelines have been established please?

Cheers
Ian

I myself am interested in learning more about XFORMS and so would appreciate
any if there are any guidlines or standards or features designed and built
into XFORMS to make them accessible?

Cheers
Ian

Are there any guidlines on how to make XFORMS accessible w



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> I haven't been on this list long but this doesn't sound like the
> sort of answer I would have expected to this question regardless of
> how 
> accurate it
> is.
[snip]
Has the 
> accessiblity
> of XFORMS really not been considered or any guidelines produced? By
> all means advise people seeking information of potential pitfalls
> and issues regarding accessibility but surely we want to be taking
> a more positive approach?

Well it on what kind of guidelines and accessibility issues Robert is
looking for. If he is interested in guidelines for current use for
sites that will be public (rather than closed intranet systems where
you may know that all users will have XFORMS capable browsers) then
I'd agree with David's guideline to not use them at all 100%.

Maybe Robert is looking for accessibility issues on a technology that
is still emerging which as such would be largely theoretical. That's
also a valid point of discussion for a list like this, but it doesn't
invalidate David's advice.

Question: How easy is it to detect if XFORMS are available and set
content appropriately?

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