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Re: mark up for complex data tables

From: Access Systems <accessys@smart.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:43:16 -0500 (EST)
To: David Poehlman <poehlman1@home.com>
cc: "Scarlett Julian (ED)" <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0111202242540.10715-100000@smarty.smart.net>
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, David Poehlman wrote:

> jaws 4.01 does a great job with this it seems.

yeah but you should see the garbage that comes out in PINE!

Bob
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scarlett Julian (ED)" <Julian.Scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk>
> To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:29 AM
> Subject: mark up for complex data tables
> 
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I am working with a site owner to convert their existing site to be more
> accessible. At present they are serving up MS Office documents (doc &
> xls)
> rather than html pages. To make things worse they are dumping Excel
> tables
> into Word docs as images. These tables are complex and I'm having
> trouble
> gettign the mark-up correct. I've read Kynn's article but still am
> having
> problems.The issue has become more urgent as I have an appointment in
> two
> days with a screen reader user to see how her assistive technology works
> and
> I would like to get the table done by then so I can hear the difference
> first hand. This is as far as I have got (I've put colours and aligns in
> for
> ease of use - these will of course be handled by CSS in the real thing):
> 
> <html>
> <head>
> <title>complex table - RAS work in progress</title>
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
> </head>
> 
> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" >
> <table width="90%" border="1" cellpadding="3" bordercolor="#000000"
> summary="Table showing comparison of pupil's marks for xxxxx school by
> subject: comparison is by gender, with statistical neighbours, across
> the
> LEA and nationally.">
> <caption> 2001 Key Stage 3 results for xxxxxx school. </caption>
>   <tr bgcolor="#CCCCCC">
>     <th colspan="3">
>       <div align="center">School name</div>
>     </th>
>     <th rowspan="2">
>       <div align="center">Subject</div>
>     </th>
>     <th colspan="3">
>       <div align="center">Band</div>
>     </th>
>     <th colspan="3">
>       <div align="center">LEA</div>
>     </th>
>     <th colspan="3">
>       <div align="center">National</div>
>     </th>
>   </tr>
>   <tr bgcolor="#CCCCCC">
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">Boys</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">Girls</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">All</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">Boys</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">Girls</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">All</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">Boys</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">Girls</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">All</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">Boys</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">Girls</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">All</div>
>     </td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">subject 1</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">subject 2</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>     <td>
>       <div align="center">data</div>
>     </td>
>   </tr>
> </table>
> </body>
> </html>
> 
> As usual there seem to be several different ways of doing things and I'm
> a
> bit confused by getting scope to cover more than one column. Also should
> I
> be using thead or header ids?
> 
> Any input would be greatly appreciated
> 
> tia
> Julian
> 
> 
> Julian Scarlett
> Web Design & Document Management System Officer
> PPU
> Education Directorate
> Sheffield City Council
> 0114 2735721
> mob 07904914976
> julian.scarlett@sheffield.gov.uk
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