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Re: ASCII Ribbon Campaign

From: Access Systems <accessys@smart.net>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:52:34 -0500 (EST)
To: Kelly Ford <Kelly@kellford.com>
cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org, ai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0111010847330.13122-100000@smarty.smart.net>
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Kelly Ford wrote:

> You could:
> 
> 1. Eliminate the ASCII in your signature.

well it's a part of the ASCII signature

> 2. Give some textual indication of the fact that ASCII art was to follow 
> and what it was intended to depict.  Optionally the number of lines, 
> although this is hard to indicate accurately.

this presents a problem in that I am already getting complaints about the
size of the signature block, wasn't too bad before the company started the
legal disclaimer stuff, which they want last.

> 3. Ensure that the ASCII art was always the final item in your message.

gets back to the boss wanting the legal part last?!

> I say this not to start a debate but at least for me the fact that I've had 

no important debate, question is how to solve it (for me would be the same
as for everyone else)

> to repeatedly hear all the gibberish (ASCII art) in your messages makes it 
> that much more likely that I just delete them without reading.  My point is 

well there really shouldn't be anything important after the ASCII stuff
generally in my mail there is nothing important after my name  

> that if you make the user experience tedious, whether that's your intent or 
> not, the user may just walk away.

yeah, I know I do, especially at poorly designed web sites that make me
constantly go to the next page to get to the text stuff

> Now I'm sure others could say the same about my comments and again my 
> intent is not to start a debate.

well not to start a debate, but how to have your ASCII and eat it to!

Bob
> 
> 
> At 08:33 PM 10/31/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Kelly Ford wrote:
> >
> >hmmmmmmm, well it is not a web site but e-mail
> >
> >the question though is how would I tag or make the site more accessible
> >
> >Bob
> >
> >
> > > At 01:37 PM 10/30/01 -0500, Access Systems wrote:
> > > >On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Kynn Bartlett wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At 09:25 AM 10/30/2001 , Access Systems wrote:
> > > > > >    /"\   ASCII Ribbon 
> > Campaign       accessBob                       .-.
> > > > > >    \ /   NO HTML/PDF/RTF in 
> > e-mail   accessys@smartnospam.net        /v\
> > > > > >     X    NO MSWord docs in e-mail    Access Systems,
> > > > engineers      // \\
> > > > > >    / \   NO attachments in e-mail    equal access is a civil 
> > right /(
> > > > _ )\
> > > > > >*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#* 
> > #*#*
> > > > #*#*#*
> > > > >
> > > > > You know, ASCII art is considered an accessibility barrier.
> > > >
> > > >text interpertation next to it,  "ASCII RIBBON"
> > > >and the other one isn't supposed to be intereperted, if you know what it
> > > >means it means the same in non visual and you understand it
> > > So how am I supposed to know from hearing star number a dozen or more 
> > times
> > > what's going on.  Quite honestly ASCII art is every bit as much as an
> > > accessibility problem as the other items I read here all the time.  In 
> > this
> > > example I see nothing telling me what's coming up and am slammed in the
> > > ears with an incessent repetition of "star number".
> > >
> > > And what's all the slash back slash around the signiture?  More audio
> > > clutter to me.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >    /"\   ASCII Ribbon Campaign       accessBob                       .-.
> >    \ /   NO HTML/PDF/RTF in e-mail   accessys@smartnospam.net        /v\
> >     X    NO MSWord docs in e-mail    Access Systems, engineers      // \\
> >    / \   NO attachments in e-mail    equal access is a civil right /( _ )\
> >*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#
> >THIS message and any attachements are CONFIDENTIAL and may be
> >privleged.  They are intended ONLY for the individual or entity named
> >above. If you are not the intended recipient, Please notify the sender as
> >soon as possible. Please DO NOT READ, COPY, USE, or DISCLOSE this
> >communication to others and DELETE it from your computer systems.  Thanks
> 

   /"\   ASCII Ribbon Campaign       accessBob                       .-.
   \ /   NO HTML/PDF/RTF in e-mail   accessys@smartnospam.net        /v\
    X    NO MSWord docs in e-mail    Access Systems, engineers      // \\ 
   / \   NO attachments in e-mail    equal access is a civil right /( _ )\
*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#
THIS message and any attachements are CONFIDENTIAL and may be
privleged.  They are intended ONLY for the individual or entity named
above. If you are not the intended recipient, Please notify the sender as
soon as possible. Please DO NOT READ, COPY, USE, or DISCLOSE this
communication to others and DELETE it from your computer systems.  Thanks
Received on Thursday, 1 November 2001 08:41:25 GMT

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