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RE: OT (slightly): Salt Lake '02 Webmaster: Inaccessible site

From: Paul Davis <paul@ten-20.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:23:17 -0000
To: "Hewitt, Denise" <Denise.Hewitt@idea.com>, "'Kynn Bartlett '" <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>, "'Debi Orton '" <oradnio@albany.net>
Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <000001c16124$8285ac80$0200a8c0@paul2>
All,

This may not be the best forum for discussion of such sites. My question is
this - where *is* the best forum? And if one does not exist, is there reason
enough to create one?


Me, me, me, me, (both hands waving frantically in the air) I'll do it on the
new ten-20.com, just as soon as I get the hang of CSS !!!!!! in training as
we speak!!!

POOH (now where's my Abrams) BEAR

-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
Behalf Of Hewitt, Denise
Sent: 30 October 2001 06:17
To: 'Kynn Bartlett '; 'Debi Orton '
Cc: 'w3c-wai-ig@w3.org '
Subject: RE: OT (slightly): Salt Lake '02 Webmaster: Inaccessible site


 Kynn,

I think you have a really good point. But I would also like to point out
that the Sydney Olympics had a serious issue with accessibility, and while
the current site may be better, it does not appear (from what I have been
able to decipher) that the attitude has improved.

This may not be the best forum for discussion of such sites. My question is
this - where *is* the best forum? And if one does not exist, is there reason
enough to create one?

Best,

Denise

-----Original Message-----
From: Kynn Bartlett
To: Debi Orton
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Sent: 10/30/2001 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: OT (slightly): Salt Lake '02 Webmaster: Inaccessible site


This all still really bothers me.  I dislike the use of the WAI lists
in this manner -- finding and identifying and shaming creators of bad
sites in public -- because I think it weakens our case if we become a
virtual lynch mob rather than a useful educational resource.  We can
get more done if we help and teach rather than if we attack and
condemn.

I don't disagree that this person could use some accessibility
training, but I don't think it's good for anyone to have their flaws
as a web designer publicly "exposed" or debated in a forum such as
this, unless they specifically request a critique or assistance.  It
only makes _us_ look bad, and makes _them_ less likely to listen to
us.

--Kynn

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Kynn Bartlett <kynn@reef.com>
Technical Developer Liaison
Reef North America
Accessibility - W3C - Integrator Network
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