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RE: Accessibility of Salt Lake Olympic Site

From: Michael R. Burks <mburks952@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 16:40:12 -0400
To: "Denise Wood" <Denise.Wood@unisa.edu.au>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <NEBBJFEIALPLCLHAPJAIKEGAFDAA.mburks952@worldnet.att.net>
RE: Accessibility of Salt Lake Olympic SiteAll,

I think the Australian site should be included.  A good many U. S.
corporations are sponsoring this, and some of them have made public
commitments to having their goods and services accessible.

I would not expect the W3C to publish the report, but as long as it is
factual and does not editorialize, I will publish it on www.icdri.org   No


Mike Burks
  -----Original Message-----
  From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
Behalf Of Denise Wood
  Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 2:27 PM
  To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
  Subject: RE: Accessibility of Salt Lake Olympic Site

  Yes - agreed Kynn

  This is not the forum for lynching organisations - just informing. I
should have been a little clearer about my suggestion about a report. I
would not think it appropriate to send a report, just an email outlining
some of the concerns. The purpose of the report I was suggesting was for our
own benefit - it is easier to construct an email when you are clear about
the problems in the site. If you don't have some sort of checklist in mind
there is risk that the email would appear vague and uninformed. OK - lets
not refer to a report - just a list of the identified problems based on the

  The reference to the Australian site I think adds weight to the email but
if you think it would be construed as threatening or that it is not relevant
then it should not be included.

  I am certainly not advocating a lynching - just a means for informing and
guiding those responsible. The goal is after all to lead to a more
accessible site for the SLC.

  Thanks for raising this as a potential issue Kynn.


  Dr Denise L Wood
  Lecturer: Professional Development (online teaching and learning)
  University of South Australia
  CE Campus, North Terrace, Adelaide SA 5000
  Ph:    (61 8) 8302 2172 / (61 8) 8302 4472 (Tuesdays & Thursdays)
  Fax:  (61 8) 8302 2363 / (61 8) 8302 4390
  Mob: (0413 648 260)

  Email:  Denise.Wood@unisa.edu.au

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kynn Bartlett [mailto:kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com]
  Sent: Sunday, 28 October 2001 4:18 AM
  To: Denise Wood; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
  Subject: RE: Accessibility of Salt Lake Olympic Site

  At 3:45 AM +1030 2001/10/28, Denise Wood wrote:
  >I've made a bit of a start in my very earlier email and others have
  >contributed already to the discussion about the site. What does
  >everyone think about starting to shape up a document like TomW's but
  >based on the SLC site with contributions from those who can?

  I am a bit concerned with the WAI lists basically being used to identify
  an inaccessible site and then whip up a frenzy of negative feedback on
  their accessibility.  I think that the circumstances are different enough
  -- e.g., the Australian site received complaints and had the opportunity
  to deal with them (even if they ignored them) and to the best of my
  knowledge no one has written to the Salt Lake City site yet.

  I think before we start writing manifestos on why any given site (chosen
  at quasi-random) is bad, we need to first make every effort to work with
  them to inform them of the problems and offer assistance as allies.
  Publicly preparing unsolicited accessibility reports is not necessarily
  a friendly tactic.

  In short, I am fearful of WAI interest group mailing lists becoming a
  lynch mob -- that's not what they're for and ultimately it does not
  help our cause to take such an approach.


  Kynn Bartlett <kynn@reef.com>
  Technical Developer Liaison
  Reef North America
  Accessibility - W3C - Integrator Network
Received on Saturday, 27 October 2001 16:41:35 UTC

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