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RE: Section 508

From: Harry Woodrow <harrry@email.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:33:30 +0200
Message-Id: <200110220733.f9M7XUG29252@zidane.inria.fr>
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org

I think it is reasonable on a closed site to use browser specific code
however it would also be important to make sure that the site was fully
accessible to all.  This would be the case if the WAI Guidelines are
implimented fully and care was taken with scripting, applets and multimedia
so ensure that suitable and accessible text equivalents were provided.  It
would also be important to ensure that the site is completely and easily
navigable by keyboard equivalents. To me it is the fact that the site is
completely accessible for all that counts, the only way this can be ensured
seems to be complete adherance to standards. Not all users of adaptive
technology can upgrade their equipment every six months so the more general
the better.

Harry Woodrow
  -----Original Message-----
  From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
Behalf Of Denise Wood
  Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 6:13 PM
  To: 'Demonpenta2@aol.com'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
  Subject: RE: Section 508


  Good point - thanks John.

  Another issue that I would like some direction about. I know that there is
a heavy emphasis on cross-browser compatibility when designing and
developing accessible web sites. What is the feeling about a web site that
has been developed for a specific group (password protected and accessible
only to that group) which incorporates features only supported in later
browsers if (a) the site supports screen readers, includes alt tags etc and
generally complies with at least minimum requirements and (b) the provider
distributes to all intended users free CDs containing latest installation
files for the latest browsers. Are there some users who would be potentially
disadvantaged in that they must use other browsers other than the latest
versions of ie and Netscape?

  Denise



  From: Demonpenta2@aol.com [mailto:Demonpenta2@aol.com]
  Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2001 2:27 PM
  To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
  Subject: Re: Section 508



    In a message dated 10/21/01 12:53:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Denise.Wood@unisa.edu.au writes:



      However, just one point for clarification. Are you referring only to
the US situation or suggesting that Section 508 has implications for
international institutions as well. I understand that may be the case if an
international university provides external courses to students in the United
States but in your opinion does the regulation have any impact beyond that?


    I personally think that it will end up applying to (or just being
adopted by) anyone that has the potential of doing business with American
government agencies anyhow, be they American or not. As the US Government
helps provide grants to a lot of people, or gives cash to the people who
provide grants..It will probably become a standard eventually in any case.

           John


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  [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Denise=20
  Wood<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 21, 2001 6:13 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D900150610-21102001><FONT face=3DArial =
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  size=3D2>Another issue that I would like some direction about. I know =
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  been developed for a specific group (password protected and accessible =
only to=20
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  (a) the site supports screen readers, includes alt tags etc and =
generally=20
  complies with at least minimum requirements and (b) the provider =
distributes=20
  to all intended users free CDs containing latest installation files =
for the=20
  latest browsers. Are there some users who would be potentially =
disadvantaged=20
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ie and=20
  Netscape?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <P><I><FONT face=3D"Brush Script MT" color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D4>Denise</FONT></I> </P>
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  <P><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Demonpenta2@aol.com=20
  [mailto:Demonpenta2@aol.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, 21 October 2001 =
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  PM<BR><B>To:</B> w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Section=20
  508<BR><BR></FONT></P>
  <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D2>In a message dated 10/21/01 12:53:16 AM =
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    TYPE=3D"CITE">However, just one point for clarification. Are you =
referring=20
      only to the US situation or suggesting that Section 508 has =
implications=20
      for international institutions as well. I understand that may be =
the case=20
      if an international university provides external courses to =
students in=20
      the United States but in your opinion does the regulation have any =
impact=20
      beyond that? </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
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    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>I personally think that it will end up =
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    (or just being adopted by) anyone that has the potential of doing =
business=20
    with American government agencies anyhow, be they American or not. =
As the US=20
    Government helps provide grants to a lot of people, or gives cash to =
the=20
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John<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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