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RE: Bulk use of accessibility checkers and other auditing tool

From: Brian Kelly <b.kelly@ukoln.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:47:26 -0000
To: "'Charles McCathieNevile'" <charles@w3.org>
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org, chitchcock@cast.org
Message-ID: <004301c11c33$98473d80$d513268a@ukoln.ac.uk>
Thanks Charles.  I was aware of the EARL work, and it has some
relevance. However although it will allow you to make statements such as
"The entry point is 50K which is within the x guidelines" in a
machinereadable way, the meaning of the size of a page does not yet
appear to be defined anywhere - i.e. does it mean the orgin of a
redirect page, the destination, or the sum; what does it mean if
user-agent content negotiation occurs; etc.
I'm not sure who should be involved in this work.  Is it within scope of
the WAI group?  If not, is there any work going on in, say, the Web
auditing communities - I know there is some standarisation work going on
in that community.


Brian Kelly
UK Web Focus
University of Bath 
Email: B.Kelly@ukoln.ac.uk
Web: http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/
Phone: 01225 323943

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles McCathieNevile [mailto:charles@w3.org] 
> Sent: 03 August 2001 14:03
> To: Brian Kelly
> Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org; chitchcock@cast.org
> Subject: Re: Bulk use of accessibility checkers and other 
> auditing tool
> Hi Brian,
> there are checkers that are starting to offer customisation 
> features. The ones I know are either ones that cst money, or 
> require other tools that cost money.
> But finally, yes, there are tools producing output in a 
> machine readable format, there is work in the ERT group on a 
> project called EARL (Evaluation and Report Language) which is 
> an RDF vocabulary specially designed for reporting results 
> like Bobby in machine readable format. And Josh Krieger and 
> CHris Ridpath (noted for Bobby and A-prompt respectively) 
> have just  produced a tool that outputs EARL.
> More information is probably most easily available from the 
> EARL homepage http://www.w3.org/2001/03/earl for people 
> intersted in the details, or from the ER group's mailing list 
> archives - look for example at the thread beginning at 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-> er-ig/2001Jul/0055
> cheers
> Charles
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Brian Kelly wrote:
>   Has anyone provided standard definitions for what 
> constitutes a page,
>   and what action user-agent should take when such strange 
> things happen?
>   Are any auditing tools providing customisation over the actions they
>   will take?
>   Finally are any of the Web sites which provide such Web analysis
>   features looking at going down the "Web service" route, and 
> providing
>   output in a machine understandable format - so that the 
> results can be
>   more easily post-processed?
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