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Re: links on white and black background

From: Pat Byrne <pat@glasgowwestend.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 21:41:28 +0100
To: <mburks952@worldnet.att.net>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <B76A8F87.78B%pat@glasgowwestend.co.uk>
on 5/7/01 12:04 am, Michael R. Burks at mburks952@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> In my opinion, colors, as font size should always be under the user's
> control.
> Sincerely,
> Mike Burks
> Webmaster and Public Information officer
> www.icdri.org


I don't know if you are the Webmaster of the Web site at the address you
give above  - but I see on the site at http://www.icdri.org there is an
example of what I was asking about, i.e the navigation on the left of the
page is white text on a red background - whereas the links on the rest of
the page are blue on a white background.

A style sheet is used to set the color and point size:
.leftnav {  font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;
color: #FFFFFF; text-decoration: none}

And the relevant code to specify one of the navigation links on your page is

<tr bgcolor="#D23367">
          <td class="leftnav">
            <div align="center"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
color="#FFFFFF"><b><font size="2"><a href="stroke_main.htm"

So you are using both font and style sheet - I assume this is done so that
the colors will appear the same on browsers that cannot use style sheets?

I asked my original question so that I could find the best and most
accessible way of doing this. Using a navigation bar with a different
background to the rest of the page is a popular technique with Web designers
- rather that say to them 'no you can't do that' I'd rather be able to say
'here the most accessible way of doing it'.


> Chairman of ISTF(ISOC) Special Needs Workgroup
> www.istf.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of David Woolley
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 5:20 PM
> To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: Re: links on white and black background
>> Can anyone tell me the best way to specify link colors for links will
> appear
>> with both a white and a black background? i.e the color of the actual link
>> need to be different for each of these circumstances. I see this often on
>> sites - where there is a navigation bar with a colored background - but
> the
>> links on the rest of the page have a white background.
> If you set any colour, you must set all colours (background, text, links,
> active link and visited link).  If you use any channel to set any colour,
> you must set all colours using that channel.
> If you use a background image, you must set all colours, including the
> background colour; the background colour should be the dominant colour
> of the background image; never put text on a background image that has
> radically different colours in different parts.
> Ideally you should accept the user's colours for pages with significant
> content.  Failing that, I'd suggest only using style sheets.   Set all
> colour at the point where you set the background, as that is likely to be
> the part of the style sheet that works most reliably.
> If the user has just had a bad experience with colours, they may well have
> colours disabled, anyway.


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