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Re: Guideline 10.5 and Table Cells

From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 21:36:12 -0700
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To: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
At 03:34 PM 7/3/2001 , David Woolley wrote:
> > If a series of links are created in separate table
> > cells do they still need to be separated by non-link
> > printable characters?
>Yes.  Because the the table cell boundaries may not be
>presented to the end user.

That sounds like a user agent problem to me.  The links are
clearly separated by markup; it's not my fault that your user
agent isn't presenting the boundaries to you.

     <td><a href="http://kynn.com/">Kynn's Homepage</a></td>
     <td><a href="http://kynn.com/cam/">KynnCam</a></td>

The delineation of the links above is completely and utterly
unambiguous in the markup.  If there is a problem with the 
presentation of the links then it is the fault of the user agent,
is it not?

   <li><a href="http://kynn.com/">Kynn's Homepage</a></li>
   <li><a href="http://kynn.com/cam/">KynnCam</a></li>

Likewise, the two are clearly separated by markup in the example
above; and yet a (silly) user agent could likewise refuse to
present the "boundaries" of the LI elements.  Surely there is not
a need to introduce printable non-link characters there?

   <a href="http://kynn.com/">Kynn's Homepage</a>
   <span> | </span>
   <a href="http://kynn.com/cam/">KynnCam</a>

There's certainly a need here, however.


PS:  I'm about 50% playing the devil's advocate here.  I believe
      there are some cases in which you do have to make allowances
      for the fact that certain user agents _don't_ do what they
      should, but I think it's also necessary to identify the root
      cause as defective browsers!

Kynn Bartlett <kynn@reef.com>
Technical Developer Liaison
Reef North America
Accessibility - W3C - Integrator Network
Tel +1 949-567-7006
Received on Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:37:04 UTC

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