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Re: Fw: Disturbing trend in tables (fwd)

From: Nick Kew <nick@webthing.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:36:51 +0000 (GMT)
To: WAI ER group <w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org>
cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0101220017460.747-100000@fenris.webthing.com>
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:

> Do you guys collect stuff like this?

I'm far too ignorant of frontpage to comment on tools for working with it.

However, I have supplied tools to companies using FP, including a
custom DTD designed for accessibility, and validation software.
To date we have two household-name companies using FP *and* requiring
validation of all Intranet pages to exacting standards.

The DTD started its life as rather strict, and was watered down only
by negotiation with an FP-colleague, who also developed guidelines
for the users ("can-do this; but that whole menu is disallowed, ...").
I actually got away with enforcing ALTs, FRAME titles, and a NOFRAMES
section in every frameset, without undue resistance.

Legislation certainly helps here.  The companies in question both have
legal departments who have pointed out the danger of a lawsuit under
(UK) disability discrimination law, in the event of an employee being
unable to access something on the intranet.  With that in mind,
compulsory validation to a strict DTD enforced by Site Valet
looks more attractive!

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:19:06 -0500
> From: Kathleen Anderson <kathleen.anderson@po.state.ct.us>
> Subject: Re: Fw: Disturbing trend in tables
> Resent-From: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org

So this is from w3c-wai-ig?  I guess I should crosspost back to it.

> "Bailey, Bruce" wrote:
> >
> > The other accessibility problem I know of with FP2K is image maps.  The UI
> > provides no mechanism for putting ALT text on the hot spots.  I haven't
> > tried this, but does FP do frames?  If so, what does it do for the frame
> > labels and the noframes section?

If FP can be tamed, there's hope yet :-)

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Nick Kew
Received on Monday, 22 January 2001 01:35:43 GMT

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