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RE: Caution about Style Sheets

From: Robert Neff <rneff@bbnow.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:27:15 -0600
To: <jim@jimthatcher.com>, "W3c-Wai-Ig@W3. Org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <AHENJNNCANEHAIIBJNDGOEIGCDAA.rneff@bbnow.net>
good question, besides CSS, also need to ask how to turn off javascript or
scripting language.  Maybe Microsoft can publish a short list on how to do
this for each version of the browser.  And I kindly defer to our good
friends at Microsoft for comment <smile>.

Dick Brown [dickb@microsoft.com], can you take this one?


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]  On
Behalf Of Jim Thatcher
Sent:	Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:56 AM
To:	Robert Neff; W3c-Wai-Ig@W3. Org
Subject:	RE: Caution about Style Sheets

Good. Along that line, Rob, I have found several references to turning off
style sheets in IE but none work completely for me. It is obvious in
Netscape, and works (Edit, Preferences, Advanced, uncheck "enable Style
Sheets"), but in IE 5.03 I have not found a way to completely turn off style
sheets except by saving and then deleting or renaming the style sheet(s). Do
you know of a sure method for turning off style sheets in IE?

The most complete "turn off" I have found is in Tools | Internet Options |
Accessibility, check the three ignore boxes and then enable an empty style
sheet. But this is not the same as loading with the author's style sheet not
present.

Jim
jim@jimthatcher.com
Accessibility Consulting
http://jimthatcher.com
512-306-0931

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Neff [mailto:rneff@bbnow.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:25 AM
To: jim@jimthatcher.com; Davey Leslie; W3c-Wai-Ig@W3. Org
Subject: RE: Caution about Style Sheets


This becomes a testing issue.  Unless the agency or person is specifically
designing and testing for it.  This will not happen.  But first, test
requirements must be developed.

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]  On
Behalf Of Jim Thatcher
Sent:	Wednesday, January 17, 2001 7:49 AM
To:	Davey Leslie; W3c-Wai-Ig@W3. Org
Subject:	RE: Caution about Style Sheets

But the question is, how can your page be inaccessible when style sheets are
turned off? There is no reason to have a "requirement" of being sure (i.e.,
testing that) your page is readable with style sheets turned off, if it will
always be readable. So my question is what do you caution content developers
to avoid in their use of style sheets.? What can go wrong?

Jim
jim@jimthatcher.com
Accessibility Consulting
http://jimthatcher.com
512-306-0931

-----Original Message-----
From: Davey Leslie [mailto:davey@inx-jp.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:21 PM
To: jim@jimthatcher.com; W3c-Wai-Ig@W3. Org
Subject: Re: Caution about Style Sheets


Maybe it's because some browsers can't/don't/won't use style sheet
technology--Lynx, for example. iCab for another.

Davey Leslie

Thus spake Jim Thatcher on 01.1.17 0:05 PM at thatch@attglobal.net:

> As you all know, the Section 508 standards include a slightly reworded
> WCAG Checkpoint 6.1.
>
> 1194.22 (d) Documents shall be organized so they are readable without
> requiring an associated style sheet.
>
> What can go wrong with the use of style sheets that require this
provision?
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
> jim@jimthatcher.com
> Accessibility Consulting
> http://jimthatcher.com
> 512-306-0931
>
>
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