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RE: Fw: Disturbing trend in tables

From: Ben Canning <bencan@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:01:05 -0800
Message-ID: <76EE387EEA6B5F4CA1CFD5A4BA5229F29EF01D@RED-MSG-13.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
To: "'Tina Marie Holmboe'" <tina@elfi.elfi.org>, "'Jim Thatcher'" <jimthatcher@yahoo.com>, "'w3c-wai-ig@w3.org'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
For the record, alt="" gets preserved just fine in FP2K. Also

Alt=''
Alt	=	''
Alt =''
And so on...

;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Tina Marie Holmboe [mailto:tina@elfi.elfi.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:16 PM
To: Ben Canning; 'Jim Thatcher'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Re: Fw: Disturbing trend in tables

On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 10:37:10AM -0800, Ben Canning wrote:

> I'm curious about the frequent claims about the 'evilness' of FrontPage
and
> other WYSIWYG editors. I would _love_ to see _specific_ examples of 'bad'
> HTML generated by FrontPage (or DreamWeaver) and how you got the HTML
> generated. 

  I can't *quote* you code right now, as I have neither program installed
  at this time, but I *was* employed by a Scandinavian 'web beaureu' to do
  a quality review of Frontpage 2000 at one point. The result was indeed
  fascinating; and whilst a (don't ASK; you should have seen the contract)
  NDA prohibits me from quoting myself, I can mention a fun effect of using
  _Dreamweaver_ (at that point banned from the project at hand)

  Write an IMG tag, and include an ALT="". Save. Reload; and the ALT=""
  is - automagically - turned into an ... ALT. Period. No "". Which gives
  interesting effects in many non-graphical browsers.


> On the other hand, if you're condemning us because you played around with
> FP97 a few years ago and it did something you didn't like, I encourage you
> to give FP2000 a try and see if doesn't work better than you think. (And
no,
> that's not a cheap attempt to get you to go buy FP ;)

  I am tempted to break out that old document, and get it un-NDA'd ... let
  me see what I can do - I hate to refuse a challenge.


-- 
 - Tina
Received on Wednesday, 10 January 2001 22:29:51 GMT

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