In a similar thread on the GL list, Jim Thatcher suggested
we not bother with LABEL and just use a TITLE on a form control.
That was an edit box control. But the idea might be the same,
here. I am still hoping to learn more about the
"implementation status" of TITLE on INPUT. What browser
and screen reader combinations get this information to the user, and
which don't?
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2001AprJun/thread.html#113>
If we have reasonable implementation coverage on this, or even on TITLE
-OR- LABEL and the web page does both -- that could be a way to respect
the visual norm where the checkboxes line up at the head of their list
items.
At 03:45 PM 2001-05-02 -0500, ADAM GUASCH-MELENDEZ wrote:
>Yes, we're doing that too. We're using FIELDSET and LEGEND to
group/label the ordering info (name, address, etc.), as well as grouping
various categories of related documents.
>
>>>> "Robert Neff" <rneff@bbnow.net> 05/02/01
02:39pm >>>
>labels are just one part of WCAG version 1. are you also trying to
implement
>fieldsets? refernce
>http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-FIELDSET
>
>here si teh cut and pastes for the WCAG:
>12.3 Divide large blocks of information into more manageable groups
where
>natural and appropriate. [Priority 2] (Checkpoint 12.3)
>HTML Techniques: Structural grouping
>HTML Techniques: Grouping form controls
>12.4 Associate labels explicitly with their controls. [Priority
2]
>(Checkpoint 12.4)
>HTML Techniques: Labeling form controls
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org
[mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On
>Behalf Of ADAM GUASCH-MELENDEZ
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:48 PM
>To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
>Subject: RE: Form labeling and user agent support
>
>
>That requirement states:
>
>"When electronic forms are designed to be completed on-line, the
form shall
>allow people using assistive technology to access the information,
field
>elements, and functionality required for completion and submission of
the
>form, including all directions and cues."
>
>As I read it, the same question applies: does using form labeling
"allow
>people using assistive technology to access the information, field
elements,
>and functionality" given the current state of user agent
support? I see no
>real difference between this and the relevant sections of the WCAG.
An
>answer to one answers the other.
>
>If you're wondering why I asked my question in the context of the
WCAG
>instead of the federal guidelines, it's because I find the Access
Board's
>work to be a decent start, but on the whole a watered-down and
insufficient
>standard. I'll comply with it, of course, but I aim for a higher
standard
>
>
>>>> "Cynthia Waddell"
<cynthia.waddell@psinetcs.com> 05/02/01 12:37pm >>>
>Will you not be following the requirements of the Electronic and
Information
>Technology Accessibility Standards for web forms at Section
1194.22(n)?
>
>Cynthia Waddell
>