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Re: <noscript> interfere with screen readers?

From: yuu Morita <VET06031@nifty.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:55:58 +0900
Message-ID: <02ce01c0eaf6$67748dc0$1b16a8c0@barchitects.com>
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
It may separate from main subject, but above all that markup is invalid:

FORM element can't have inline elements just under itself.
SELECT element must be markup in block element.
LABEL element can't have block element just under itself.
NOSCRIPT element is a block element, and NOSCRIPT element have block element just under itself.

If that is an XHTML document, INPUT element is an empty element. The start tag must end with " />".
Or, if it becomes a HTML document, SELECTED attribute need be omitted. In short, it is specified SELECTED instead of
SELECTED=SELECTED.

*See XHTML 1.0 <http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/> and HTML 4.01 <http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/>


Furthermore it can be made more accessibility:

SELECT element may be markup with tabindex attribute, and it may specify an appropriate accesskey.
INPUT element with TYPE=SUBMIT attiribute may be markup with tabindex attribute.

*See WCAG 1.0 <http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/>


If it is my case, I'll be markup below:

<form method="post" action="something.cgi">
<p style="display:inline"><label accesskey="C">
<select onchange="function()" tabindex="1">
<option value="none" selected="selected">Click below.</option>
<option value="foo">Foo</option>
<option value="bar">Bar</option>
</select>
</label></p>
<noscript>
<p style="display:inline"><label accesskey="S">
<input type="submit" value="do something" tabindex="2" />
</label></p>
</noscript>
</form>

Or,

<script type="text/javascript"><!--
document.write('<'+'form method="post" action="something.cgi"'+'>');
document.write('<'+'p'+'>'+'<'+'label accesskey="C"'+'>');
document.write('<'+'select onchange="function()" tabindex="1"'+'>');
document.write('<'+'option value="none" selected="selected"'+'>'+'Click below.'+'<'+'/option'+'>');
document.write('<'+'option value="foo"'+'>'+'Foo'+'<'+'/option'+'>');
document.write('<'+'option value="bar"'+'>'+'Bar'+'<'+'/option'+'>');
document.write('<'+'/select'+'>');
document.write('<'+'/label'+'>'+'<'+'/p'+'>');
document.write('<'+'/form'+'>');
// --></script>
<noscript>
<form method="post" action="something.cgi">
<p><label accesskey="C">
<select onchange="function()" tabindex="1">
<option value="none" selected="selected">Click below.</option>
<option value="foo">Foo</option>
<option value="bar">Bar</option>
</select>
</label><label accesskey="S">
<input type="submit" value="do something" tabindex="2" />
</label></p>
</form>
</noscript>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Shifra Raffel" <sraffel@oxygen.com>
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 5:25 AM
Subject: <noscript> interfere with screen readers?


> Sorry for a slightly newbie question. On a program I'm building, we're using
> the following format, putting the "submit" button inside a <noscript> tag to
> hide it from all but non-Javascript users, for design reasons. Can anyone
> tell me, does this interfere with the accessibility? Many thanks for word.
>
> <form method="post" action="/cgi-bin/something.cgi">
>    <select onchange="JavaScript_does_cgi's_thing_unless_scripting_off">
>      <option value="none" selected="selected">Click below:</option>
>      <option value="foo">Foo</option>
>      <option value="bar">Bar</option>
>   </select>
>  <label accesskey="s"><NOSCRIPT><input type="submit" value="do
> something"></NOSCRIPT></label>
> </form>
>
> --
> Shifra Raffel
> Web Programmer
> ThriveOnline, www.thriveonline.oxygen.com
> (415) 908-3079
> sraffel@oxygen.com
>
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