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RE: dlink and longdesc

From: Robert Neff <rneff@bbnow.net>
Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:00:50 -0500
To: "W3c-Wai-Ig" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Cc: <jim@jimthatcher.com>
jim, thank you very much for your comment!  luckily i have this in an
include file and can fix right away.

here is another question. the image in the footer is really there for
functionality.  how would you describe the image in the footer?  What do you
think of  "Separates main content and the footer."  then catch the image
desciption in the longdesc and d-link?

>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]
> Sent:	Sunday, May 06, 2001 2:34 PM
> To:	w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org; W3c-Wai-Ig
> Subject:	RE: dlink and longdesc
> Robert,
> I feel strongly that the alt text should be simple and convey the
> information of the image. So the alt text for the two images at the top of
> the page should be exactly the words on those images, without the
> description of the graphic; that should be in the long description.
> Long description is supported. HPR not only offers it to its blind users,
> but adds the link to the graphic view as well - a decision I consider to
> be a bug. I haven't checked screen readers.  They will catch up when folks
> start using longdesc.
> I think the right thing to do is provide the longdesc attribute and do not
> clutter your design with the D tag - at least for the template. The D tag
> is fine for some of our sites, but it would certainly not help your
> design. The description is not interesting anyway! It is somewhat amusing
> that when I carefully included the d link, like in
> http://jimthatcher.com/webcourse2.htm, HPR then has the D link right after
> a "Long Description" link. 
> As far as adding white on white D link, that will work for the screen
> readers I know. It is done at http://firstgov.gov  (white on white) and
> http://www.assistivetech.net (black on black)  for the skip navigation
> links. 
> Jim 
> jim@jimthatcher.com
> Accessibility Consulting
> http://jimthatcher.com
> 512-306-0931 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]
> Sent:	Sunday, May 06, 2001 9:55 AM
> To:	W3c-Wai-Ig
> Subject:	dlink and longdesc
> i have added longdesc to almost all the images.  i know i need to add some
> better ALT tag description.  however, as the longdesc is not used, the
> recomendation use is d-link.  do you agree?
> i do not think we are going to get government and commercial designers to
> add this or worse yet some designs are so intensive that the cost of
> rework may justify not doing it.  
> I would propose that a list of descriptions be kept on another page with a
> copy of the image.  
> would an alternative be if space could be made to make the link white so
> it would be hidden to users.  could it be rendered by assistive devices or
> do some devices not read text that is not visible?
> comments?

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