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RE: !important

From: Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo <emmanuelle@teleline.es>
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:06:26 +0200
To: "Kynn Bartlett" <kynn@reef.com>, <coordina@sidar.org>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <LPBBIBHMFONPBODMLDAOCEOKDEAA.emmanuelle@teleline.es>
Yes, Kynn, I know it :). And you can be sure that now that I know your essay
I will read it and I will mention it in my document.
But the question is not that the own styles or the utilities that contribute
the diverse operative systems, solve the accessibility; but rather the users
should know that if they find a page they are a small font or with a color
that they are made difficult to read, they can change that and to choose how
they want to see the Web pages, if the pages have been created following the
guidelines of accessibility; because if it is not this way, although the
user uses his own styles they won't be able to modify anything :)

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Kynn Bartlett [mailto:kynn@reef.com]
Enviado el: martes, 10 de abril de 2001 18:51
Para: coordina@sidar.org; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Asunto: RE: !important

More philosophical ramblings; executive summary: "client side CSS is
good, but it doesn't solve the problem as much as we'd like."

At 09:32 AM 4/10/2001, Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo wrote:
>Hi all,
>This is the reason for which I have begun to write about the responsibility
>of the users regarding the accessibility. Because most of the users are
>passive and they don't know that, with their navigators and with other
>existent utilities in their operating system one, they can change the way
>that the pages appear Web and to make it so that it is they comfortable to
>use them.

In my opinion, while the ability in CSS to override creator styles is
a nice thing, I feel that it's not a good "solution" because it requires
users to understand how configure their software in a way that is not
very apparent nor easy to do.  This introduces an extra hurdle to
accessibility -- "hi, user, you need to learn CSS to write yourself a
stylesheet" or even "hi, user, you need to learn how to choose your
own stylesheet after downloading it" if using a library of CSS written
by someone else -- and puts too much _technical_ burden on the end

Web site creators/programmers/designers are assumed to be more technical
than web site users, on the average, and thus technical requirements
should be pushed off to the designer whenever possible.  Well, really
the job should be done by the browser programmers, but failing that,
it should be the burden of the site operator/designer.  The _task_
of web surfing is less technical than the _task_ of web authoring,
and alternate stylesheet management is definitely a technical task
at this stage.

This is why, while I applaud anyone who uses their own stylesheet to
change web sites to be more easily used, I feel the true solution
to the problem must be addressed at the server level so that a
solution can be delivered for everyone.


Kynn Bartlett <kynn@reef.com>
Technical Developer Liaison
Reef North America
Tel +1 949-567-7006
Received on Tuesday, 10 April 2001 13:06:35 UTC

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