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RE: paper on usability and accessibility

From: Anthony Quinn <anthony@frontend.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 08:23:46 -0000
To: "Jamie Mackay" <Jamie.Mackay@cultureandheritage.govt.nz>, "WAI Mailing list" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <NDBBLLFMJKDHOKHGOBIMAEGOCPAA.anthony@frontend.com>
Hi Jamie,

No need to apologise - I asked for criticism. Your comment is a fair one.
The problem is largely caused because the online version appears in what is
essentially an out of date template. We are redesigning our site at present
(should be testing it with real users in the next 8-10 days or so, which
will be interesting). Our developers are completely overhauling not just the
interface but the entire backend as well, so it's a pretty big job.

The new site will take care of the problem with reading order.

Thanks for your comment though. Did you actually use a screen reader, or
just The Wave - I'm curious because I haven't had any complaints from people
with screen readers. If anyone out there has had any trouble with the site,
please let me know.

You can see the page in question at



-----Original Message-----
From: Jamie Mackay [mailto:Jamie.Mackay@cultureandheritage.govt.nz]
Sent: 04 December 2000 02:16
To: WAI Mailing list
Subject: RE: paper on usability and accessibility

Hi Anthony

Sorry if this sounds like a smartass comment -  I actually think what you
are doing is great -  but I would have thought that such a document should
be presented in a more accessible way. For example, according to Wave, the
main text doesn't start until the 61st cell of your table - lots of stuff to
wade through if you are relying on a screen reader.

This is particulary important for a web page which people new to desinging
accesible sites will look to for design and layout ideas as well as for the
content it contains.

Jamie Mackay

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Anthony Quinn [SMTP:anthony@frontend.com]
> Sent:	Saturday, 2 December 2000 03:47
> To:	WAI Mailing list
> Subject:	paper on usability and accessibility
> Hi All,
> Frontend has published a white paper "Accessibility and Usability for
> e-Government - A Primer for Public Sector Officials".
> This paper is intended as a primer for public sector officials who are
> responsible for or otherwise involved in the creation of web sites and
> although it is written within an Irish context, it may be of interest.
> I would be grateful for feedback and comments from the group - positive
> and
> negative! If anyone would like a copy, please let me know and I will
> happily
> forward it - it's available in PDF, MS Word 2000 format ot as a text file.
> We have also posted it on our website, at the following URL
> http://www.frontend.com/accessibility_paper.html
> regards,
> Anthony
> _______________________________________________________
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>    Frontend ~ Usability Engineering & Interface Design
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