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Re: Possible Solution to Text as Graphics

From: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 12:09:52 -0500
Message-Id: <200011031641.LAA164674@smtp2.mail.iamworld.net>
To: WAI Interest Group <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
At 10:29 AM 2000-11-03 -0500, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>This should be done as follows:
>
><h1><img src="ddd" alt="real text" /></h1>
>
>This already works in browsers like Lynx, but most graphical browsers keep an
>image placeholder of the same size as the image, and just use a default
>system font for rendering alt text.
>

AG::

That's OK for how to code in current technology, but "If I ran the Zoo"
solutions are also valuable to create and collect at this time.

Step past html:img and html:object to smil:switch.  Then step back consider
how
it should work.

Sketches of "it would be good if it worked like this" will be useful to the
HTML Working Group as they consider how they re-baseline lots of things to use
X-Link.  the OBJECT element is high on their list.  Son-of-OBJECT could well
look something like what Ben is thinking.

What if an IMG had a TITLE and DESCription, each of which was hypertext, with
arbitrary markup captured within it, as a drawing subgroup (svg:g) now has in
SVG?

http://<http://www.w3.org/>www.w3.org/TR/2000/CR-SVG-20000802/struct.html#Gr
oups

Al

>Cheers
>
>Charles
>
>On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Ben Morris wrote:
>
>  Perhaps this is a bit too theoretical to be of much use, but I have thought
>  of a possible compromise for using images to represent text.
>  
>  To designers, using style sheets is not a true substitute for using an
image
>  file to display text.  And the reverse is true for HTML purists.  So
perhaps
>  we could have the best of both worlds...
>  
>  Adding an attribute to the image tag could help define the image as text,
>  which would still define the "meaning" of the piece of information such as:
>  
>  <img src="abc.gif" alt="Contact Us" equivalent="h1" height=...>
>  
>  Browsers could display the image for this element if the user has images
>  turned on, or could render the alternative being:
>  <h1>Contact Us</h1>
>  
>  This would be an improvement for accessibility and designers.  Designers
>  wouldn't have thier design destroyed if someone turns off images, and other
>  users would be delivered more meaningful content.
>  
>  Just my $.02
>  
>  -Ben Morris
>  
>
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