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RE: Tool Tip behavior

From: Bruce Bailey <bbailey@clark.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:15:17 -0500
To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <unagi69@concentric.net>
Cc: "WAI Interest Group Emailing List" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <004401bf7d69$27617640$1aac66a7@151877>
Dear Gregory <span lang="la">et <abbr title="alia">al.</abbr></span> :)

I recognize that Tool Tip behavior ALT vs TITLE is an old question.  For
example, see <acronym title="Was not that funny the first time, knock it off
already!">URL</acronym>:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/1997OctDec/0131.html

I am glad to hear you say that IE is following our (?) recommended behavior
of using TITLE over ALT.  This IS how it works for me with IE 4.5 and a Mac.

Does this means that one could "defeat tooltips" by using code like:
<IMG SRC="foo.gif" ALT="Foo U!" TITLE=""> ?

I am NOT getting this behavior out of IE 5 under Windows 95.  I am ONLY
getting ALT as the tool tip.  Could someone speculate if there is trouble
with my browser configuration or with my code?  Did IE change behavior
between ver 4 and 5?  The page I am testing with is my own home page at URL:
http://www.dors.state.md.us/

Thank you.
-- Bruce


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory J. Rosmaita [mailto:unagi69@concentric.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 12:21 PM
> To: Bruce Bailey
> Cc: WAI Interest Group Emailing List
> Subject: Re: Tool Tip behavior (was RE: About ABBR)
>
>
> aloha, bruce!
>
> in the PC environment, i know from testing with sighted and low-vision
> users that TITLE takes precedence over ALT as a ToolTip when both are
> defined for a graphical hyperlink...  when one mouses over a
> hyperlink for
> which a TITLE has been defined, that, too, is exposed as a
> ToolTip in MSIE
> 4x and 5x
>
> JFW 3.5 (the screen-reader produced by henter-joyce, http://www.hj.com/)
> allows one to choose whether one wants the hyperlink text spoken,
> the TITLE
> or ALT (with TITLE taking precedence over ALT), or whichever is longest...
>
> the default setting, as described in:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000JanMar/0123.html
> is "speak TITLE or ALT"
>
> the removal of ALT text from a site because of ToolTip action,
> however, is
> indefensible, especially since the decision was apparently taken
> based on a
> browser-specific implementation slash exposition...
>
> gregory.
Received on Tuesday, 22 February 2000 14:17:46 GMT

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