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Re: General Comment re Guidelines/Discussion

From: Wayne Crotts <wcrotts@arches.uga.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:42:39 -0400
Message-ID: <001f01bed53b$24ac2200$0ba8c080@uap.uga.edu>
To: "WAI Interest Group" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
So we have the same problem of old browsers not being able to read it.
Folks, considering that my department is full of old PC486 machines, I can't
just pretend this is not an issue.


----- Original Message -----
From: Night, Joe <Joe.Night@gateway.com>
To: WAI Interest Group <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 2:47 PM
Subject: RE: General Comment re Guidelines/Discussion

If you choose to use both at the same time, you create an additional
usability risk.
Assume for a moment that your choice in font size and face presents a
readability issue. For example, lets say it's Times Roman and it's set to
It is hardly reasonable to expect an average reader to use the browser
agent's font size/face changing ability to fix your screwup.
I would suggest that expecting an average reader to change the fonts and
then turn off a style would be sadistical. That would be way beyond the
ability or desire of the average surfer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Crotts [SMTP:wcrotts@arches.uga.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 11:17 AM
To: WAI Interest Group
Subject: Re: General Comment re Guidelines/Discussion

Are you asking that the author use both strategies (attributes and
sheet).  Otherwise, don't we return to the problem that older
browsers can't
handle CSS.


Wayne Crotts
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----- Original Message -----
From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
To: <webmaster@dors.sailorsite.net>
Cc: 'Charles F. Munat' <charles@munat.com>; WAI Interest Group
Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: General Comment re Guidelines/Discussion

This thread is moved to the guidelines list, where itis under

owever I don't think you have to give up those attributes, you just
have to
use a style sheet as well.

Charles McCN

On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Bruce Bailey wrote:

  I don't have a problem with avoiding wholly deprecated elements.
   Unfortunately, by my reading, 3.3 is stricter than this.  To
follow this
  checkpoint I would also have to give up all occurrences of
  ALIGN=CENTER/RIGHT attributes.  That is too much of a sacrifice
for me!

  On Wednesday, July 21, 1999 10:39 PM, Charles F. Munat
  [SMTP:charles@munat.com] wrote:
  > As for Priority 3.3, I read it to say that you should use a
  > layout vs. elements such as B, I, FONT, etc. As far as I'm
concerned, as
  > long as you avoid those elements, you've met this priority. If
you want
  > make text red, use a stylesheet or the style attribute rather
than the
  > tag. If you can live without the B, I, etc. tags, and you don't
  > you need a stylesheet, I don't see that Priority 3.3 requires
one. What,
  > blank one, just for looks?

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